Gate'ing Vocals
 

What do you find is the best way to Gate vocals?

I'd love to find out as i'm pretty clueless as to how to achieve it the way many artists do.

Me too, like the effect, never read how to do it.

:)

Please explain?

Do you mean a kinda stuttered vocal effect? How about an example?

yea the stuttered effect thingy... i'll try dig out an example

http://www.sectionz.com/temp/frognt_...arket_8317.mp3

.. forward to about 3:23

Hello,

You could pop the vocal into a sampler and use a square wave LFO to modulate volume. Kontakt 2 is good for this as there are so many modulation options.

Or you could draw in level changes in a sequencer's volume automation lane.

Dave.

for that type of effect think of bad time stretching. Infact listening to the song it really sounds like some very simple sample manipulation.

exagerated example:
Think of a sample, short say 1 bar, stretch it out so that it lasts for 4 bars the sounds will stretch out and will leave gaps in between and will sound really low in pitch. now adjust the pitch increase by say +24 semitones for this example and it will have the same pitch as before you stretched it, but now it will sound really gated.

This is a really old technique and was a problem that has been overcome by new timestretching algorithms so go old school.

I have a es-1 from korg that allows me to do this really easily. Sorry I can't tell you more for now but I'll try and look in to it.

the 1-4 ratio goes with the +24 increase in pitch, 1-2 goes with +12, and so on.

I used this technique to show a mate of mine years ago, so I know exactly what it is ;)

A suitable vst would timestretch and not compensate pitch and, you'd need to adjust the pitch without adjusting the time stretch.

I'll look at the settings on my korg in the morning and tell you the proper name and may even do an example.

Kris

Good tips, thanks comrades!!!

:)

-Alex

that vocal effect sounds like akai timestretch being used to the extremes (200% +) and then gated
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In Cubase I use the effect called "midi gate" on the audio channel (in this case the vocal)
Then set a midi track\channel to control the gate plugin (instead of selecting a VST instrument)

Now whatever patterns you draw into the grid on that channel will cause the gate to either open or close depending on how you set it. you also have control for depth, attack and release

not sure how you'd do it in Logic but i assume it would be similar

seconded, thanks guys

I need a sample to use so I'll have to look in to that, If you have one then send it over and I'll do it in hardware, it'll come back as a wave file.

The gated control is good I'll have to try that, I have camel space at the moment that is working great on my samples.

The one thing I hate about all this sample manipulation talk is that I have no bloody samples in one place to use. I never liked any of the samples I bought and haven't really found and good hooks. I'm a bit tight to buy any more samples these days so if anyone has a place that I can download some hard dance, male/female vocals then please do share ;)

I do have a sample from a song that goes it's 4 o'clock in the morning, so I'll snip that down and do the timestretch thing.

http://illformed.org/glitch/

Got the link to the above free plugin from a dude in the Roland forums.
Looks good, I tend not to go down the plugin route but will give this one a go.

(Kris no worries on the vocals mate)..

fired up this Glitch plugin thingy, its a gem, very easy to use and really flexible.. took me (noob) about 5 mins from installing it to getting that stutter/ gated effect in perfect time. It does it very well and can offer many variations, and this just one effect of 8 that it has.

Totally recommended to anyone looking to manipulate vocals (any wavs) in that glitchy, stuttery, gated manner. Would be really great with beat loops too.

sounds good will check it out. been using camel space for my gates but want the glith stuff too.

This is great. I´ve been wondering how these effects where done and wanted to do them myself. I will test it tonight. Thanks for the link :D

this vst is one of the best I've ever used, has to be said. Ieven went and pulled out all my old school (you know they weren't old school when I bought them) Sampled in some hits and loops and hey presto add in vst and slow things down, some very heavy music coming from me next ;)

What about just using a gate effect on the vocal? something like Camel Space will do the job for you NP, or you can cut the vocal to 16ths, then space it by 16ths, u can cut the vocal to its singular words then put them into somethign like K2 and manipulate them as u see fit, u can also have an lfo controlling volume, you can use time stretching as mentioned above, there are loads of ways to do it.

SM