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Old Vantaa Man 20.02.2007 02:22 PM

Well, we've had a few druggie mentions on here. So..
 
I like a big smouldering bong best of all. Full of skunk.


Jase?

AlexHall74 20.02.2007 03:21 PM

Sensimilia is a good thing. If only it were legal. It is much less dangerous than alcohol.

Gopal 20.02.2007 10:46 PM

I'm not at liberty to say

jasedee 20.02.2007 11:32 PM

Nice thread...

In my more youthful days I certainly indulged in many class A's, not so much these days though. I do still enjoy the odd bong/joint, and about 4 times a year I'll get on the disco biscuits, or have a couple lines of charlie.

Travelling throughout asia has seen me dabbling in some more serious stuff, which I do enjoy, but dont recommend

nvisibl 21.02.2007 12:20 AM

currently planning a couple of magic mushroom camping trips up north scotland this summer, and i'm booked for ecuador in May to do some ayahuasca. yum


3o3 21.02.2007 06:08 AM

Hoho.

I haven't tried any stronger stuff.. I've smoked a couple of times but didn't like it at all. I got rather bad anxienty/panicattacks from it and as 99% of my old friends either are dead, in jail or are class A drugaddicts (heroin/amphetamine/and so on). I never saw the fun in doing any drugs as most of my friends started out pretty young and it went bad fast for 'em.

I was hooked on benzodiazepines however.. Worst time of my life.. 6 months are just missing and one day I woke up in jail.

It took me almost a year to acctually recover and still from time to time I get these urges after benzo.

What a shitty drug that is.. And it makes you go crazy, I mean bad bad crazy! The worst violent crimes are done under the influence of benzo-pills

logo80 21.02.2007 07:26 AM

beer is my only drug...

bishopkris40 21.02.2007 05:00 PM

Tried most but I have calmed it all down alot now. I usually smoke a spliff or two a day but been clear for a few weeks now, roll on the 4 week growth ;)

To be honest I prefer that to drinking but doesn't stop me. But starting to get older and need to bring all my skills together so may have to stop most soon :(

Had some rally bad experinces when I was younger with pretty much every other type of drug so eventually stopped most of them. Lost and still loosing a few mates to smack! I wish they'd never tried it. Don't blame anyone for being hooked, just wished they'd never tried it.

I wish to slightly change this thread to help some of the younger curious users:
What is you're worst experience of drugs? (E-panic attacks etc, smashing mum and dads house)

Onkel Dunkel 21.02.2007 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishopkris40 (Post 274974)
I wish to slightly change this thread to help some of the younger curious users:
What is you're worst experience of drugs? (E-panic attacks etc, smashing mum and dads house)

In a period of my life where i was very fond of magic mushrooms i was i the woods with a friend (we where both on double dose mushroom and had smoked a large pot joint). We began talked about load of shit (as you do on mushrooms) but the conversation was lead towards all the bad things humans do to this earth. For some time we didn´t want to be part of civilazaation anymore but instead build little huts in the trees and live in balance with nature an we where very close to letting a farmers cows out because all animals should be free (they had a square mile or so to run around on). We did manage not to let the cows out but a side effect is that i´m a vegetarian today :rolleyes:

I also smoked a lot of weed (i mean A LOT) in my younger times. So much that my life almost didn´t have any meaning anymore. All i did was go to work/school and smoke to get stoned. When i tried to stop i got so bored because i didn´t know what to do when i was sober and all the so called friends never came around anymore. Most of them are really fucked up today. There´s still a few who is still my friends but all the rest i have no contact to at all. I still smoke a joint now and then but mostly at festivals or when i need to calm down/stress off. I think i smoke about 10 joints a year now (besides festival where i smoke everyday :D )...

ten 22.02.2007 12:42 AM

Used to pill every week in my late teens earlier twenties when hitting the raves or trance clubs. Did coke and smoked gear a small amount also but that never seemed to do anything for me apart from give me a shitty throat or nose.

Did speed/base for a while but its a fucking dirty little drug and the come down is arse. Also done ket a few times but thats bollocks aswel, just mongs you out for the whole night.

Still do crystal mdma whenever I goto big clubbing events (pills are full of shit these days, in the UK anyway) like global gathering or Ibiza (which I am going to in August again), but its like 4/6 times a year max.

The best experience was doing LSD tabs we got from a pikey camp when I was about 14. So cheap and they lasted for fucking hours. Man the shit youd see on that stuff was totally fucked up.

ten

jasedee 22.02.2007 03:36 AM

I used to love LSD... took alot of it in my youth, too scared to do it now

bishopkris40 22.02.2007 06:11 AM

LSD tabs were so much better than mushrooms.

But do you notice that the age most folk do them is bloody young? I was also about 14-15.

At one point I was taking one every week. We had a big group who'd just walk around having one of the best laughs of my life, there's always a comedian in the crowd that would keep everyone going.

Must admit too scared to try it again.

Infact I'm pretty much sure that my run of drugs other than the occasional joint( maybe very regular) has ended.

I've had many bad experiences but the worst by means of long term effects has to be taking ecstasy. During my rave years I had good connections and got good stuff.... Well I usually took one every 4 hours or so at raves and ended up in bad states but had fun, then one time I got 3 pills for one night and they came with a severe warning (from a dealer a warning isn't good)

He said to take a half that night so I knew what to expect, this was the Friday night so I did, ended up flying now I mean I was so out of it this was unbelieveable! I never slept that night, done a papaer round in the morning, where I still enjoyed going in circles, I then went home and lay in bed waiting for bus to leave for Rave, left at 6pm still without sleep and still 2.5 tabs in pocket. Popped another half on way to rave and bounced in to rave. Mates all like to go down the front so there we went, I danced in the space they usually left for me. A few hours in I went for a double dunt, this made things very weird, I was now high as a kite, This continued until I had just 1 left, at which point I knew things were going out of control, sop I gave my mate half of my last, Then...

The prick floated past me at the front of the stage.. Laughing and saying I float like a beeeeeeee weeeeeeeeeeee. Funny but then all hell broke loose.

I started hearing the MC say my name and point everyone of the 10000 ravers were out to kill me everywhere I looked folk were talking about killing me, got my group off friends together and hid in the middle as they checked me out and told me everything was ok. Went back to the front on another high which suddenly fell deep into disaster, I walked out the front door without saying to mates, went to what I thought was my bus, an hour later someone got on bus and I thought he was coming to kick my ass, he spotted this and chilled me out, I was on the wrong bus, This guy was one of the best people to meet, he spotted I was freaking out and gave me water and found out who I was with and took me to my bus, where I might add I got the pish ripped out of me. Got home and thought all was well.

Well it wasn't that paranoia stayed with me for almost 18 months, I was scared of any confrontation and eye contact, I got by but not until I spoke to my mates about it and they said just to confront my fears, in other words if I think I'm going to get hit, stand my ground or walk past the person, I can take a hit from anyone so I decided to try it, With my mates watching all the time I'd walk past, the other person usually was not even aware of me, so after some time doing this I got better.

A few years on though one of my mates who also had a good supply we noticed he never came out. We went on holiday and he wanted to stay in. I spotted this and told everyone to get him out for an hour, just enough drink so he couldn't drive, he wasn't happy we done this so He decided to walk home, I went with him and told him the above story, he then admitted that was why he didn't go out! We all worked again to sort that out, now he has a beer gut!

I don't hate x but I have to sy it can screw you up, I have loads more bad stories about most drugs, even spliff. But I don't preach to anyone but just watch for signs in yourself and others around you. Drugs are fun but friends and life are more important.

K

3o3 22.02.2007 06:56 AM

My worst experience was on benzo (of course). I went over to a friend to have a drink and just talk as he was going to Thailand/China/PNG and would be gone for about ~1 year or so.

Anyways, I didn't feel so good at the way over to him (my agoraphobia and anxientyproblems) so I took 2 pills as the doctor had ordered me to do whenever I felt bad. It took about 5 minutes until the pills kicked in..

It felt better but still not great so I took one more (which was the 'maximum' dosage every 5-6 hours). It felt great.. We talked for an hour or so..

Then it's all black from there.. I woke up the next day in jail.. Noone would speak to me, noone would tell me whatever I was accused of.. After spending another ~12 hours in jail a policeofficer came and said; You're up in the next couple of hours.. be ready..

Be ready for what? As he didn't seem that happy to see me I got kinda scared that I might acctually got a bad beating.
But it was just to tell me what I was accused of aswell as to hear my story..

Anyways the kinda innocent story;

After about an hour or so talking to my friend, all of the sudden I had said to my him; I really feel.. weird.. I gotta throwup.. I think..

I went into the bathroom and 1 hour later and still not a single sound from the bathroom my friend decided it was time to acctually see what was going on. He opened the door and found me just sitting on the floor looking and.. nothing basicly. He got me some water and asked how I felt and my reply was everything but normal and it went something like this; "One.. Flies by.. of time... itself..". I was really calm and cool but I couldn't speak..

My friend decided it was time for some tea and sugar to get me to feel better.. During this time I had went out in -25 C without a jacket or shoes. When he noticed me gone, he ran out and didn't find me until he heard shattering windows and he found me smashing a securitydoor with my hands (3-4 cm glass and wire.. crushed with my bare hands!).

Anyways, he decided that it was time to call the ambulance -> He ran home and while he did that I "found" a person which I beat up pretty bad and went back to smashing a pizzeria. I got into the place and started to smash the whole place up. I put chairs in the owen and so on.. It was chaos..

I was trying to get home when a busdriver refused to stop (as it was in the middle of the road). I beat him up aswell.. hanging from the outside of the bus (think; actionmovie featuring Jean Claude Van Damme). I waved him in and he stopped to ask what was wrong and all I said was; Take me home.. He said that "This isn't a bussstop and besides.. that's way off my route!) when I jumped at him and got hold of his _face_ (I was climbing onto holding his face and nothing else). He started to drive when we reached ~40-50 km/h I fell off and into a bush..

After that I was going back to my friend when the first person I beat up came by again with his friends.. I beat him up once more and his family came by as I.. threated them so they fled the area.

Now the pizzeriaowner had come by (as the alarm had gone off while I was smashing the place up). I chased him for about ~5 minutes or so when the first policecar arrived.

They released the dog at me and as the dog bit me I beat that aswell.. The dog let me loose and didn't reply. They called for backup and more cars arrived, one police tried pepperspray on me without no effect whatsoever. I just said; You done a big mistake now and I grabbed him and we got into a fight. Now it was ~11 policecars (= 22 policemen), 4 dogs and finally it arrived another policevan so it was 17 policeofficers at the scene.

I jumped up on a policecar (as I had free'd myself from 2 policemen trying to hold me down). I smashed the windows and lights on the car. The police fired a warningshot (as they have to do in Sweden before they take you out). I didn't reply or did anything other than just looked at them trying to attack them (I mean.. what the hell!).

The policeofficer I had attack first lowered his weapon screaming; I will shot (he was the one firing the warningshot aswell), I WILL SHOT! I started to walk towards him.. He aimed at me and was stopped that my friend found us, screaming "don't shot him.. don't shot him!" and he explained that I took medicine against bla bla bla.. They decided that if they all would "attack" me I wouldn't stand a chance.

They was quite right, but I put up a good fight as it took almost 30 minutes to get me secured..

And that's the most innocent story I could tell you about that evening..

The prosecutor wanted me in jail for this; 4-8 years. As it seemed that once I was in the bathroom I finished _all_ of my pills (~70-80 benzo pills!). I didn't remember a thing from the night!

I got 15.000:- SEK in fines, 2 year probation and stuff like that as the pizzeria decided not to press charges and all of the people I beat didn't press charges either as they felt bad for what happened but they understood (how they now can do that) what I was going throw. I was only charged with beating the police and smashing one of their cars!

I haven't done a single pill of benzo after that incident; I came home and flushed all my remaining pills and burnt the papers I had to get more and then I had this personal hell for a year and still feel that I want more benzo from time to time.

Onkel: Christiania? How is that place nowadays?

Old Vantaa Man 23.02.2007 09:23 AM

Did acid twice when I was 18. First time was a guided tour of the universe by Mr Spock and the Dalai Lama. Second time was a tour of putrid hell. Aka Stockport, England.

Old Vantaa Man 23.02.2007 09:27 AM

Incredible story Sebastian!

3o3 23.02.2007 02:37 PM

matsa: Aye, and that's why I stay away from drugs nowadays and I don't eat benzo no more. It felt quite.. surreal once I found out what I had done the day before..

I've had bits and pieces coming back later on but these aren't as wild as it is described in the policereport! I might add that my friend and I still talk and every now and then talks about "the night". I can laugh about it now aswell as I have been forgiven by all that I did hurt! That felt quite good that they understood that it wasn't "me" that did this.

My brother teases me about this aswell from time to time; "Sebastian Van Damn!" and stuff like that.. Maybe I outta try an "Dolph Lundgren".. He was a kid that got into trouble and after awhile moved to US to try his luck and to get away..

Rocky X - Return from the dead.. I could be the outrageous zombie boxer that has traveled back from time to beat Rocky when he first became the world champion.. Now that's a good Hollywood idea!

Old Vantaa Man 23.02.2007 02:45 PM

Buddy, those days are gone. Time heals everything.

bishopkris40 23.02.2007 10:14 PM

sebastian, you have some stories mate! no wonder you like a beer so much ;)

3o3 24.02.2007 07:45 AM

I like to say, no wonder why I got anxienty- and agoraphobiaproblems these days!

Good thing that I have calmed down, still every now and then I get crazy.. but good crazy (big difference).. Good crazy is the Sebastian that always laugh and laugh, bad crazy is the story above..

Mm, how I love to talk about myself in third person, that makes me sound alot healthier!

nvisibl 14.03.2007 12:14 AM

i'm off camping up North Scotland with my mates in a few weeks, trying to settle some magic mushrooms for the occasion. Does anyone know of a reliable place (website) to buy them from?

Its a bummer cause they were recently made illegal so many overseas sellers won't ship them to the UK.


This is where we are going... looking forward to really getting in touch with nature ;) and listening to some appopriate music with a blazing campfire etc..
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...en+etive&gbv=2

jasedee 14.03.2007 03:02 AM

Buy them? Dont you just pick em out of the cow shit? Thats what we do in Australia...

nvisibl 14.03.2007 07:39 AM

we're currently out of season here else it wouldn't be a prob as they grow in abundance near where I live.



unbelievable that they ban something that grows wild all over the fuckin country/ world even

3o3 14.03.2007 11:27 AM

They probably ban it since many can't handle it. I would never do any kind of shrooms as I am already totaly fucked and I'd probably get all fucked by it same goes with LSD and any mindbending substances.

It grows loads of different types of shroom here aswell..

nvisibl 14.03.2007 07:47 PM

the word on the street is that many such psychadelic plants are banned because they show people more the real nature of reality and also how the current sociological system is setup as an entrapment to keep the masses subdued. i.e. poor and stupid.

bishopkris40 15.03.2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvisibl (Post 275746)
the word on the street is that many such psychadelic plants are banned because they show people more the real nature of reality and also how the current sociological system is setup as an entrapment to keep the masses subdued. i.e. poor and stupid.

you sure you haven't been taking too many already lol

I'm sure you can buy dried or powdered somewhere but after my last attempt I've stayed well clear of them.

Old Vantaa Man 15.03.2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

the word on the street is that many such psychadelic plants are banned because they show people more the real nature of reality and also how the current sociological system is setup as an entrapment to keep the masses subdued. i.e. poor and stupid.
That's a fucking tricky one mate. Yes, capitalism depends on poor and stupid people. But on the other hand that is also nature. Mr Darwin kind of sussed it. Human nature can be assessed as hopelessly sentimental if you take a "real nature of reality" argument to a certain conclusion.

Laws of evolution are not at all forgiving.

Old Vantaa Man 15.03.2007 07:20 PM

Chris Bish, mate. I would sell the house to finance a film doco of you on mushrooms.

Cmon.. How about it? You know you can fly..

nvisibl 15.03.2007 11:43 PM

True..it can be a tricky one......also when you consider the collective unconscious and how its eating away at itself mostly from fear of its own mortality. ie. Humans manipulating or killing each through fear of the percieved threat of each other.

Or considered collectively - Humanity is killing itself for the intent of its own survival.

Fucking nuts init :confused:


Mushrooms etc.. can be for example used as a tool to journey into the subconscious and learn more about ourselves, or to assist temporary expansion beyond our own habitual thought processes. This as well as assisting us beyond mortal fear, or the shadow of death.

If each individual was to have or even maintain an acute clarity of perception at least for a while and also get beyond their own fear of death then it would be very difficult if not impossible for them to fall prey to external manipulation.

They would probably give less a fuck and would turn things around and create a new life or begin creating a new collective reality because lets face it, this one sucks big time.

Much of our current sociological system is setup to control, manipulate and damn well feed off the masses. Religions, Federal Reserve, general capitalism, dodgy governments and whatever else.

The rich stay rich, the poor stay stupid and up to their eyeballs in mortgage debts whilst blood sweat and tearing their lifes away doing 9 to 5 jobs they dont even like.

Trapped by their own subconscious fears.. not always aware that there is a helluva lot more to life and its mystery than what current sociological or cultural constructs dictate.

just my own 2 quids worths right enough

nvisibl 15.03.2007 11:53 PM

Kris, you are most welcome to come along on this trip if you want ;)

Old Vantaa Man 16.03.2007 09:22 AM

Quote:

......also when you consider the collective unconscious and how its eating away at itself mostly from fear of its own mortality. ie. Humans manipulating or killing each through fear of the percieved threat of each other.
Yeah. It's kinda depressing, but that's nature's big trick to keep life going. Survival and reproduction. If we were any good, we'd stop fighting and fucking, I suppose.

Well, I'm not much use at either of them these days...
:rolleyes:

Onkel Dunkel 16.03.2007 10:24 AM

Well we did invent family planning for a start. Now we just have to stop fighting :rolleyes:

Old Vantaa Man 16.03.2007 11:11 AM

Yeah, but the Catholics and the Muslims wouldn't agree with you there.

Kill em all.

JOKE


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