All congratulate a new nuclear power North Korea
 

North Korea has made a successful nuclear test and with its ballistic missile capabilities it's now officially a nuclear power.

Any thoughts on the event?

Watching official footage of North Korea's facilities, the reactors look like something Wallace and Grommet made.

I dunno. World affairs are beyond me mate. I think your avatar just about sums it up..

Edit!
Sneaky use of admin powers there Juho.
:lol:

Re: All congratulate a new nuclear power North Korea
 

Yes.

I will laugh my ass off when their sycophant of a leader gets buried under a pile of rubble because of his unwarranted machismo.

What an ass is Kim Jong Il.

He can't even feed his own people, sustain an economy, or keep his country adequately supplied with energy.

What business does his Napoleonic little ass have with nukes?

:roll:

Maybe some people in New Orleans have the same kind of thoughts? I think there are some parallels.

As long as they dont give away all their research matirial to iran im cool with that.

Very witty, Matt! Touche! :oops:

I'm no fan of "W" but I think even he is more decent than Kim Jong Il.
Matsa wrote:
Some, but many are figurative. It's just not an apples to apples comparison.

Well being as I live on the coast of the "Japan sea" (pff - Japan sea...), and that in my town I have an Airbase (the closest Japanese Airbase to NorthKorea), I'm a little bummed out about the situation.

I would rather they sell everything they have to Iran, buy power and food for the NorthKorean people, disband their Army and Nuke-plants, but I know that ain't gunna happen though (well maybe the "sell to Iran" part will).

I do not say that I like Kim Jong Il but Bush really has some odd ideas aswell and uses his power slighty.. erhm, how should I put it.. idiotic? His statement about Kim refused to listen to the U.N, Kim Jong Il isn't the only one.

It's sick how those mad dogs can be in such positions with the power of end millions of lives, If we (the infected-board) ruled the earth.. Woah, now that's a nice thought!

Alex - President of Bay Breezers
3o3 - BeerMonkey, more known as Beer president.
HC - well, HC is just.. well plain old HC with a corrupted mind and kinda reminds of the "Simpsons" Mayor.
Matsa - Tony Blair - typical brittish!
Juho - Kim Jong Il? Do I even need to explain this one
Drammy - Bush? I mean, he's got the ultimate power to bring this board down in an instant.. he just gotta push the button and all is doomed!
Tomer - One Tomer to rule them all, just set Tomer loose on the arabicworld and everything outta be nice.
ledge - Peter Jackson, great enterainer!
merlot - Pedro, I love your dancemoves.

Frickin' classic Sebastian!

I like your politics much better than the real ones!

Sounds fine with me!

oh yes! Bush though! I would have prefered God :lol:


Quality post 3o3!

I'm in no rush to kiss Drammy's arse!

For me at least, the worrying thing about North Korea is that I get the impression that they'd actually fucking drop a nuclear bomb somewhere. They don't seem to have much to lose and they're difficult to retaliate against. This testing is embarrassing for the Chinese.

Aye, fake politics are much better than the real one. Republic, democratic, dictator, king or just CEO of a company.. It's all the same, crap.

Hey, I found a picture of me on tah interwebz



Who is responsible for that photo?

Haha! That dog has a face like my ex-wife. 1st one.

Bwahahahahahahaha, matsa.. you dog!

BWAHHHH!!!!!

How many ex-es do you have, old boy?

:?: :twisted: :?:

Do tell!!!

Why? Giving their nuclear research material to Iran would make lots of sad people very happy.

Isn't it quite absurd that one reasons why some nations has set economic sanctions on North Korea is that they might sell the nuclear weapons to anti-Western countries like for an example Iran. If they set hard economic sanctions on North Korea there's really in no time no other way for NK to get funds than smuggle weapons.

But all this hassle about NK attacking with the warhead is all bollocks. The power of a nuclear weapon is not in that it will be detonated to cause massive destruction, but in that it could be detonated. It's like a home insurance. In this century only US has been irresponsible enough to flash a usage of nuclear weapons in military operations.

I believe the main reason why the leaders are upset of the successful nuclear test is that the nuclear weapon gives NK a good trump card for the political card game. Reminds me of a bit on how West manages the colon- err, the "developing countries" - Do like we say, not like we do. If I recall right it's only ten years ago when France did new nuclear tests against IAEA's regulations and all the uproar there was were "Bad boy France, bad" accompanied with winks and everything continued like nothing was happened. Well, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing because France is a pal country.

Now NK gets stamped on much less when it has the warhead, so the NK's vision of more stable East is not actually total Kim Jong Il's poppycock. But the complete unstability of the country, really unpredictable actions and total lack of inside information to outside adds a bit of excitement on the case. We really don't know anything about what's going on in there but I really doubt they are planning a war.

Instead of threats and economic sanctions the world should just swallow the fact that NK has the warhead and it's not going to change. I hope there soon will be meetings of the leaders in which they discuss the future in a more constructive spirit instead of threatening.

Hey, I can edit my own posts even I'm not an admin.

I had just discussed South Korea's stance to the situation and I kinda got stuck to the South.

Kim Jong Il? Discuss in a constructive spirit? Haha! Can just see it:

"Yes, you're right. My family has subjected this country to a brutal totalitarian regime since 1953, starving its population and enforcing the most joyless existance imaginable for those left. OK. I'd like to have open, multilateral relations with the nations of the world. Do you think I can still keep my little cottage by the lake and a bit of land to grow rice and not have to go to that awful Court of Human Rights place or be put under arrest?"

Hey, North Korean people love their leader - And why wouldn't they, afterall he has superhuman merits and qualities unimaginable for an ordinary man. According to the North Korean press, he even controls the weather.

But really, I don't think no-one is getting anywhere if the discussions consists of two alternatively repeated phrases: "You can't have a nuclear weapon" and "Yes we can have a nuclear weapon".

No, of course not. But the cold war really did exist and our Soviet mates really did roll into Eastern Europe and would have gone further had it not been for our American friends.
Serious doubts began to arise about the intentions of the US with Vietnam, and the unilateralist approach of successive Republican White Houses toward foreign policy has undoubtedly smacked very much of imperialism, winning little sympathy amongst the intellectual left in Europe.
However, for all Uncle Sam's faults, I agree with Alex. N Korea can't even feed its own people, sustain an economy, or even let the poor bastards download cracked soft synths. The priorities of that regime are to keep the powerful in power and the filthy proletariat in the dirt. Capitalism may do the same, but at least we can leave if we want. No, I wouldn't let them have nuclear weapons. Nor Iran.

Soviet Union wasa bit different caliber nation than North Korea.

Of course it's a threat for the West that North Korea has a nuclear weapon due the total instability and corruption of the country. But it's silly if someone thinks that North Korea gives up the nuclear weapon if it's oppressed with economic sanctions and threatened with military actions. Afterall North Korea resigned from the IAEA anti-nuclear weapon pact due that West refused to communicate with the NK. It seems like West didn't believe that NK was serious when it informed of the nuclear program and now when it's all reality the West still refuses to understand the simple rules of the game: As long as NK is ignored and threatened with all sorts of sanctions, they continue their pompous actions.

West really treats NK like it's a puny harmless colony that can be forced to anything by threatening. The longer this colonial attitude is kept on, the nearer the shit is the fan. What I mean by constructive meeting is that West would start comunicating with NK to find out what is this all about. Now even China is worried on the NK's situation and is leaning towards UN instead of supporting NK 100%. That gives even better base for good constructive meeting.