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The girl next door 27.02.2006 05:36 PM

Help..... Fellow sound designers
 
I need to know which patch is close or how to get close myself to this high bell like sound (dooooo.do.do.do.............do.do.do) from U2 http://www.thegirlnextdoor.de/newyearsday.mp3

Cheers lads...... :wink:

Khazul 27.02.2006 05:50 PM

Its an EQd piano with loads of (metal plate?) reverb, compressed post EQ I think. Original synth might even be a U20 - no idea what U2 used back then.

Start with the hi piano patch on the TI - pile on the reverb, fiddle with colour, EQ it - that piano might be a bit sharp tho, and the reverb on the TI probably wont quite match the required color - resonance on 100% key follow will help a bit.

H5N1-Virusinfected 16.03.2006 11:38 AM

as for piano...I think U2 used a Yamaha CP70/80 back then....

..with tons of FXs...

Timo 16.03.2006 12:06 PM

Re: Help..... Fellow sound designers
 
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Originally Posted by The girl next door
I need to know which patch is close or how to get close myself to this high bell like sound (dooooo.do.do.do.............do.do.do) from U2 http://www.thegirlnextdoor.de/newyearsday.mp3

High bell? Lol.

Not with a virus that's for sure. VAs don't do acoustic pianos all that well. ;)

BTW, U2 is my fav band in the world. Edge is my idol.

Tarekith 16.03.2006 12:53 PM

Check out patch 1 in my soundset, it's an acoustic piano emulation I did. Sounds pretty good IMO, though I'd love to know what others think of it.

http://tarekith.com/assets/TarekithE...alSoundset.zip

The girl next door 16.03.2006 09:20 PM

Re: Help..... Fellow sound designers
 
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Originally Posted by Timo
U2 is my fav band in the world. Edge is my idol.

One of my Favourites also, but the best ever has to be Depeche mode for sure...

The girl next door 16.03.2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarekith
Check out patch 1 in my soundset, it's an acoustic piano emulation I did. Sounds pretty good IMO, though I'd love to know what others think of it.

http://tarekith.com/assets/TarekithE...alSoundset.zip

Thats the same set as you got on the Access site.And i thought i might get that U2 sound :? ...What music you into anyway??it ain't Trance and house thats 4 sure :wink:

Khazul 16.03.2006 10:55 PM

Americans *cant* do trance and house! :wink:













*grabs a bucket of popcorn and sits back to watch the show*

The girl next door 16.03.2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazul
Americans *cant* do trance and house! :wink:

*grabs a bucket of popcorn and sits back to watch the show*

Know what i mean!!! sweet.
When i'm back in Reading to see me Bro-in-law for the Premiership footy or the speedway,me and thee will have to go out 4 a pint....

Khazul 16.03.2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1-Virusinfected
as for piano...I think U2 used a Yamaha CP70/80 back then....

..with tons of FXs...

Hmm - just found a good CP80 preset on my Motif ES - definately kore than a passing resemblence when you pile on reverb and squash the hell out of it :)

Dunno why I never thought of using it before as a U20/M1 style piano subsititute...

The girl next door 16.03.2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazul
Americans *cant* do trance and house! :wink:

Mind you he does come from Chicago!! i've still got some Tyree cooper,Fast Eddie,Farley Jack masterfunk and ChicagoHouse records...
Fast Eddie say no more :lol: Fucking amazing

Tarekith 16.03.2006 11:12 PM

Here's some examples of the stuff I do:

http://tarekith.com/t_audio.htm

I do downtempo, breaks, trance, house, classical, you name it. Restricting yourself to just one genre is so boring.

The girl next door 16.03.2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarekith
I do downtempo, breaks, trance, house, classical, you name it. Restricting yourself to just one genre is so boring.

Cool stuff...I think you are more Chillout and house..Like it..Respect !!

Khazul 16.03.2006 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The girl next door
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khazul
Americans *cant* do trance and house! :wink:

*grabs a bucket of popcorn and sits back to watch the show*

Know what i mean!!! sweet.
When i'm back in Reading to see me Bro-in-law for the Premiership footy or the speedway,me and thee will have to go out 4 a pint....

LOL - you're on :)

The girl next door 16.03.2006 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazul
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Originally Posted by The girl next door
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Originally Posted by Khazul
Americans *cant* do trance and house! :wink:

*grabs a bucket of popcorn and sits back to watch the show*

Know what i mean!!! sweet.
When i'm back in Reading to see me Bro-in-law for the Premiership footy or the speedway,me and thee will have to go out 4 a pint....

LOL - you're on :)

He lives down near the Oxford road and our kid lives near coley park

Khazul 16.03.2006 11:40 PM

Tarekith, I listened to a load of you tracks a while back - some really good music there. :)

BTW - is the Exile set zip ok - downloaded it a while back - was corrupt - meant to tell you ages ago.

Khazul 16.03.2006 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The girl next door
He lives down near the Oxford road and our kid lives near coley park

K - I'm out in the sticks - Wokingham.

The racket I make here - I would probably get evicted from a house in Reading quite rapidly :)

Tarekith 16.03.2006 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazul
BTW - is the Exile set zip ok - downloaded it a while back - was corrupt - meant to tell you ages ago.

Yeah, a few mac guys said they couldn't unzip it, no idea why though. I checked it with the friends I know who have Macs and they were able to unzip it ok, so ????

I even rezipped and uploaded a new one, try that and let me know if it still won't unzip. Shame, best thing I've ever done musically....

The girl next door 16.03.2006 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazul
Quote:

Originally Posted by The girl next door
He lives down near the Oxford road and our kid lives near coley park

K - I'm out in the sticks - Wokingham.

The racket I make here - I would probably get evicted from a house in Reading quite rapidly :)

Sure you can get down to Reading for a season (Drink) maybe we can talk "Ten" into getting the first round in !!

Khazul 17.03.2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The girl next door
Sure you can get down to Reading for a season (Drink) maybe we can talk "Ten" into getting the first round in !!

Heh - good idea - Hes has been rather quiet :)

The girl next door 17.03.2006 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Khazul
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Originally Posted by The girl next door
Sure you can get down to Reading for a season (Drink) maybe we can talk "Ten" into getting the first round in !!

Heh - good idea - Hes has been rather quiet :)

You meet that Geezer yet???
Or is he totally...Cyber!! or was it Cider,can't remember :lol: :wink:

H5N1-Virusinfected 17.03.2006 07:01 AM

Re: Help..... Fellow sound designers
 
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Originally Posted by The girl next door
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo
U2 is my fav band in the world. Edge is my idol.

One of my Favourites also, but the best ever has to be Depeche mode for sure...


U2 is absolutely one of mine....definitely more into rock/pop than trance/techno/dance...

And here I am with a Virus...!

:roll:

Timo 17.03.2006 02:42 PM

I think the reason I admire the Edge so much is that he has a strong synthesis and electronic influence. He increases the tones from his guitars ten-fold compared to others. You heard that mother fucking humungous phaser effect he uses on Zoo Station when playing live? woah. And he's not one of those egotistical nonces that have to play 748-notes-per-second guitar solos just because he can. ;)

The whole band as a whole, to me, are just outstanding, though.

Anyway, TGND, the secret with the piano from New Years Day is distortion. Pianos sound fucking lovely distorted. EQ, compress, and reverb to taste. Distortion naturally compresses stuff anyway. Also play the notes two at a time, one one octave lower than the other. (If you have a good ROMpler piano available, simply use two oscillators, one being -12 semitones lower than the other). Don't fine-detune them at all, though, otherwise they'll sound like a crappy honky-tonk.

Also, break with tradition and apply reverb before compressing. Pumps it up like a giant mammoth mutha.

Khazul 19.03.2006 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The girl next door
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khazul
Americans *cant* do trance and house! :wink:

Mind you he does come from Chicago!! i've still got some Tyree cooper,Fast Eddie,Farley Jack masterfunk and ChicagoHouse records...
Fast Eddie say no more :lol: Fucking amazing

Thats a good point - and I do have a thing for Chicago style house piano :)


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Originally Posted by Timo
Pianos sound fucking lovely distorted. EQ, compress, and reverb to taste. Distortion naturally compresses stuff anyway.

...

Also, break with tradition and apply reverb before compressing. Pumps it up like a giant mammoth mutha.

Absolutely - love the sounds of a piano abused in that manner :)

The virus ti reverb + analog mode filter saturation seems to suit this kind of piano abuse quite well + if you're crafty and use the input follower, and mod off the resulting filter envelope - you can use the TI as quite a good transient shaper/compressor in static input mode.

I must get around to fully plumbing out the TIs outputs into the patch bay so I can loop it all back through again an apply the transient shaping post-fx - sadly hard to do this decently in one pass on the TI as its doesnt have the C internal aux1/2 busses - Grrrr!!!

Marc/TK - one for you - can we have the aux busses back please :)


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