Jungle DNB Detuned Bass sound?
 

How do you make that signature detuned bass sound heard in a lot of jungle and older DNB??
Maybe like a lot of jonny Ls bass from his first album...
Havent got a clip at the mo but can get if you dont know what Im talkin about!!
Im sure its pretty easy but when I detune oscillators against each other it doesnt seem to sound right!
Cheers guys for the great forum too!!
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Im pretty sure I know what sound you are after, but Im afraid my programming skills arent as good as others on this forum.

You would probably get more answers if you did post a small clip of what you were after.

I have a feeling though that the bass sound you are looking for was probably done on an old analogue synth, maybe a mono synth.

Good luck!

Cheers,
I dont actually have a clip here
yet.
Is there no way to get that sound with the Ti?
:?

Cant help you there as I dont own a Ti...

But, Im sure you will get close. The Virus line are capable, you just need to know how to drive them. If you had a clip, someone like Tomer=Trance would be able to figure it out in a second

Prolly a stupid q but the biggest file i can post is 60kb.
How can I post it??
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Yeah, best bet is to post a clip.

You need to upload something to an mp3 hosting site, then link us the mp3 here. You can't upload files dirrect to the forum.

Often though, with those big basslines in DnB there is a fair helping of processing. A saw with a square wave, then applying PWM is a good start. Layering, compression and FX would come next. It really does vary depending on the gear you have and the sound you want.

Post a clip and hopefully someone will be able to point you in the right dirrection.

i think he's talking about the classic hoover sound, which is usually programmed on its father synth => the roland alpha juno, especially in the older dnb & jungle stuff. Later, in more modern dnb styles (a la TeeBee or Cause for concern, a lot of other synths have been used for that sound)

But a lot of other synth - virus included -are capable of reproducing it : basically it is detuned square oscs with pwm.
You can also use Junglis/Hydra for that sound, they are used a lot in the dnb productions.

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Thats some hectic DnB, things have changed alot since I used to listen to it. OT: Do you like the new Pendulum Album????

After listening to the sound, I came up with something similar using my Yamaha CS-10 analogue mono. All it needs is a little distortion, compression etc..

Your Ti should be very capable of acheiving close to this sound, just get in there and experiment

I tried to get in there and listen, but so many adds and redirections took hold of me, I gave up.

Maybe I'll give it another try tomorrow.

Pendulum use z3ta/virus poco for their bass sounds. :D

03_Uneasy.aif

Heres the link again.
sorry bout the other one!
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yeah and they sound like poo, this whole digital things is out of control, dnb sounds terrible nowdays.

Use real analog for your source sample and use real analog eq and mixer input gain to overdrive sounds.

Someone sounds jaded and bitter...

I think Pendulums album sounds different, which is why I like it. I used to buy alot of DnB vinyl around 1999-2001, but stopped as the sound that was evolving became too hard and techy, then Pendulum comes along, and gives it a more breakbeat, polished, and dare I say mainstream or universally more acceptable sound.

So, why so bitter? They are enjoying success, they have some BIG friends (ie The Freestylers), and obviously their sound is appealing. Are you just trying to keep it street level, underground, anti-mainstream...

So anyone know about the sound??
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The quality isn't great, but it sounds like a distorted or overdriven sine to me with a lot of tweaking of the envelope. Nothing too complicated. You could also get the same sound by using 808 stabs with effects which is very common.

Pendulum make very cheesy music with the same overused drum samples, but they do in fact use a virus powercore and z3ta a lot. For example, one of their most famous noises is the main bass noise in Masochist which is all z3ta and it's own mod matrix and effects. The incredibly cheesy lead in Slam was made on the powercore which is a sound I hope never comes out of my virus :x

hmm form descriptions kinda know where your ocming from will listen when at home late rif i remember. But if it the sound i think you want it just two osc with a saw waveform with one of them slightly detuned to the other then filter, distort and compress.