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blay 10.07.2005 01:40 PM

New Tannoy Range
 
Anyone checked these out/ or maybe thinking about a purchase?

The specs look great, but the precision range is a little pricey...

Im considering getting the 8 inch passive version (the 8D actives would be great, but again, a little pricey).

The Tapco's are nice, but the top end detail cannot match even the 5 inch reveals we had on loan here recently. (unfortunately the bass response from the reveals just doesnt cut it).

cheers

blay

Tomer=Trance 10.07.2005 01:53 PM

a tannoy reveal+active sub woofer set up is great,or just get the 8 inch one :P

blay 10.07.2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
a tannoy reveal+active sub woofer set up is great,or just get the 8 inch one :P

Yeah i dont really like 2.1 setups - thats why I am leaning towards the 8inch version.

I was considering some dynaudio bm5a's, but again - Im not sure they would provide sufficient bottom end detail. The bm6's are just a little out of my price range unfortunately, or thats what I would be buying.

cheers

blay

Tomer=Trance 10.07.2005 05:02 PM

did you try the ADAM monitor(not the 3way monster)?

blay 10.07.2005 05:10 PM

if you mean the new 'artist' range - then no.
they are actually quite expensive too - and I really dont trust anything with less than 6.5" subs to reproduce accurate low end

cheers

blay

Tomer=Trance 10.07.2005 05:20 PM

No i mean the 7 inch passive model,ANF-10.
A good match for them will be the alesis RA150 or RA300,or maybe a hafler amp if you can afford the high end :)
They sell as a boundle here for around 1000 euro for the monitor and amp so it must be cheaper in europe.

ADAM monitors reach up to 35khz of spectrum!
Yeah right,are these monitors for humens or dogs? :D

http://www.adam-audio.com/downloads/SOS_TESTanf10.pdf
this this one for more details.

blay 10.07.2005 05:31 PM

the tannoy precisions go up to 51kHz 8O

thanks for the tip on the anf-10s though - I will definately check them out.

cheers

blay

Tomer=Trance 10.07.2005 05:36 PM

Is your studio acusticly treated?
its not use spending big money on monitors and not be able to take full use of them\do wrong use with them dou to untreated room.

blay 10.07.2005 05:50 PM

yeah weve made a bit of an effort to treat reflections using about 10 eggshell mattress overlays which you can kind of see in the pics i posted in these two threads:

http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/vie...2079&start=150

http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/vie...er=asc&start=0

cheers

blay

Tomer=Trance 10.07.2005 05:58 PM

ahhh its too dark,i cant see! 8O

bass traps are a must i belive to absorv some of that lower muddddd.
im corrently planing some acustics for my bed room\studio :D

blay 10.07.2005 06:00 PM

in the second link its pretty easy to see the type of foam we have used.

make sure you post some pics when you make your room mods tomer...

cheers

blay

jasedee 10.07.2005 11:57 PM

That egg crate style foam is actually pretty horrible......and using it on every wall covering everything is probably overkill.

I had an acoustician come round the other day, and he gave me some really cool tips and ideas.

I have a few meters of egg-crate foam lying around and the first thing he said was not to use it. Instead, he said I should make use of the Tontine that I have, and make some panels around 60cm x 120cm, to be placed wherever the first reflections hit the walls. you can do this by grabbing a friend, sitting at your mix position, and asking him to move around the walls with a mirror, and when you can see your tweeters in the reflection, this is the spot.

He also told me I should move my mix position so that Im facing the window instead of the brick wall, as the bass will flow through the window much easier. Also, being at the window would move me away from the corners of the room where bass energy builds up.

I have just finished the last coat of paint in my room, and now almost ready to start building the tontine panels, which I think I will mount in frames, and then covered with a porous, thin material. Also looking to put curtains against thee window, probably a thick velvet material.

Wow.....exciting!

As far as the Tannoys go.....I have a pair of reveal actives....they are OK, but I think at some point I will replace them with something more like the BM6a's....wow! They are hot....

blay 11.07.2005 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasedee
That egg crate style foam is actually pretty horrible......and using it on every wall covering everything is probably overkill

not overkill at all jase - it depends on your situation.

our room has polished wooden floors, the roof is angled, and basically before we added the foam the room was absolutely unusable.

btw its not covering every wall - just the half of the room where the gear is - and even then it is only a strip at speaker height.

the mirror trick is great - just dont forget your roof.

cheers

blay

Panopticon 11.07.2005 06:54 AM

Well, jasedee's right in that you can definitely overdo foam, be it the eggshell variety, or the better Auralex stuff. What you're looking for is generally between 40-60% coverage, or else you'll just be making an unnaturally dull monitoring environment, and your mixes will most assuredly be too bright. Once again, we're talking monitoring/control room uses, not recording. My iso room has 100% Auralex coverage on the walls/ceiling, and there is no possible way to do any kind of critical listening in that environment, and for a lot of sources (anything with a room/distant/ambient mic) we have to move to a different room.

Taming mid and high freq's is a piece of cake, I could train my 6 year old nephew how to treat a room in a day; the killers are nulls and peaks in your bass response. Effective bass trapping is tricky to pin point, difficult to construct and install, and much more expensive than other treatments; and unfortunately, it's far and away the most important to nailing a mix.

Tomer=Trance 11.07.2005 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasedee
He also told me I should move my mix position so that Im facing the window instead of the brick wall, as the bass will flow through the window much easier. Also, being at the window would move me away from the corners of the room where bass energy builds up.

Just another thing to point out,room structure should always be considered,and usualy its very induvidual dou to wall matirial and room size.
If you want to freq analize your room for reverbartion time and unwanted freq peaks there are spacial softwares for lowcost
(I belive you can download a demo of the software and use a 20$ radio shack mic that will work with the testing) which do that,after recieving the outputs you will know exacly what are the sonic issues you are facing.
Remember that evenly drying your room is only first stage of treament and there are few more issues.

Final thing,
Treating your room can be done without the help of a proffesional and i belive it doesnt not have to cost like a virus synth,interent is your friend :wink:

Gopal 11.07.2005 09:32 PM

Don't underestimate the bottom end on those Dynaudios.

And don't believe most of what you read on the net about accoustic treatments. There are very few people in the whole world that are truly expert at this field.

blay 12.07.2005 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gopal
Don't underestimate the bottom end on those Dynaudios.\

have you used the bm5's gopal?

cheers

blay

Gopal 12.07.2005 09:40 PM

Very briefly used them in one session. Liked them alot, thought they were very 'boring' to listen to which is a good thing IMO. Definately not fatiquing like my friends KRK V8s. I get brain strain with those things in no time. Mind you, they sounded a whole lot better when we ran them off my MOTU card instead of his shitty m-audio.

I like the Dynaudio stuff, its just not cheap though damnit. (Its off to the Behringer shop for me *shudder*)

blay 15.07.2005 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gopal
I like the Dynaudio stuff, its just not cheap though damnit. (Its off to the Behringer shop for me *shudder*)

yeah I dont rate the krks.
but whatever you do gopal dont buy behringer.
spend a couple hundred more and get yourself some tapco s8s. best value for money IMO.

you can get bm5s from jrrshop.com for $1000USD with free international shipping. seriously considering this option ATM.

cheers

blay

Gopal 15.07.2005 09:38 PM

Heh, I wasn't actually serious about buying the Behringers :lol:

In saying that though, a guy I know who runs the music tech department at the local university told me that the new Behringers are pretty much an exact copy of last year's Genelecs, and that they are alot better than you would expect.

The other monitors I like are the Events.

Tomer=Trance 16.07.2005 07:40 AM

the TR series?!

their suppose to be very dissepointing compering to the 20/20 and PS series.

jasedee 16.07.2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
the TR series?!

their suppose to be very dissepointing compering to the 20/20 and PS series.

A friend of mine has a pair of 20/20's on loan.....they seem quite nice. The Precision series look really nice, I'd be interested to hear them.


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