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stereo_type 14.05.2005 04:56 PM

Above & Beyond virus b!
 
hey this is probably a noob question ;) but can you tell me what all the cables connected to their virus (not the midi in/out cables) is good for..? are they connected to their mixer.. or how does it work.. ?

thx!




Juho L 14.05.2005 05:01 PM

Re: Above & Beyond virus b!
 
With only MIDI cables connected you wouldn't hear a thing from the synth. MIDI is jsut a control signal. The audio cables very likely go to a mixer or to a soundcard.

Timo 14.05.2005 05:16 PM

Yeah, it looks like a full on "loom" there. (8 cables together)

The virus has 6 individual mono outputs, and 2 audio inputs.

stereo_type 14.05.2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo
Yeah, it looks like a full on "loom" there. (8 cables together)

The virus has 6 individual mono outputs, and 2 audio inputs.


well does it mean you can have virus sounds on different mixer channels? how many is possible? like bass on one and lead on another channel ? :)

Tomer=Trance 14.05.2005 05:54 PM

exacly.
you can define which of the outputs the channel will use.

Hollowcell 14.05.2005 11:46 PM

Yep, you can even split the effects from the synth-part and run them out on a seperate channel too.

techno_7 15.05.2005 08:38 AM

MIDI
 
Did you know?

MIDI is 1 's and 0's!

001110000101010000010001110000
0100001010101000001010101010101

That could be a midi signal!!!

F5D 15.05.2005 06:26 PM

If I remember right, they send everything to the computer (running logic) first for effects processing (they have UAD1 for example and use it alot) and use the analog desk to finally mix the whole project. They don't use the Logic's digital summing but send all the tracks to the desk and mix in analog form. They may output some of the synths directly to the desk too but I'm not 100% sure.

Kill me if I'm wrong. :lol:

In fact that's something I will do someday too...

Tomer=Trance 15.05.2005 07:10 PM

analog summing is nice...

some people pay top dollars for an analog summing device.

Juho L 15.05.2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
some people pay top dollars for an analog summing device.

"We professionals call it a mixer"*

*Derived from a Finnish TV history classic: Matti Kyll?nen was reporting a formula race and Keke Rosberg was a commentator. Matti: "And what's now?! There are smoke coming out of the jets on JJ's car!". Keke: "We professionals call those jets exhaust pipes"

techno_7 15.05.2005 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
some people pay top dollars for an analog summing device.

"We professionals call it a mixer"*

*Derived from a Finnish TV history classic: Matti Kyll?nen was reporting a formula race and Keke Rosberg was a commentator. Matti: "And what's now?! There are smoke coming out of the jets on JJ's car!". Keke: "We professionals call those jets exhaust pipes"

Weird.

jasedee 15.05.2005 10:56 PM

Actually Juho.....there are a number of "Analogue summing units" for sale these days, offering a cure for digital mixes.

It's the latest "fad" out there for people mixing "in the box". Supposedly you can get better results by sending a bunch of stereo mixes from the computer out to one of these analogue summing devices, than if you were to mix entirely from the computer.

They tend to be of better quality than your average Mackie desk, but I think the differences would be negligible. If you can mix well, then an analogue summing device wont improve things that much, and if you cant mix well, then there is no saving your mixes.

Tomer=Trance 16.05.2005 11:55 AM

daw mixing is very common now days but people are still looking for that neve\ssl analog console sound.
just send everything on one side get pure honey on the other side.


just something i was wondering jase.
do analog summers have multiply outputs (seround..) ?

jasedee 16.05.2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
daw mixing is very common now days but people are still looking for that neve\ssl analog console sound.

A summing device wont do this though.......you will need a Neve for that!

Quote:

just something i was wondering jase.
do analog summers have multiply outputs (seround..) ?
I dont think so.....well, not the ones I have seen anyhoo.

Timo 16.05.2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
daw mixing is very common now days but people are still looking for that neve\ssl analog console sound.
just send everything on one side get pure honey on the other side.


just something i was wondering jase.
do analog summers have multiply outputs (seround..) ?

Decent mixers have direct outs on all channels, and 8-bus mixers also have, er, 8 busses (each with direct outs), in addition to the stereo out. :)

Juho L 16.05.2005 01:56 PM

Hmm... Isn't it trivial to sepperate mixers and "analog summign devices" as the mixers are analog summing devices. I assume that this "analog summign device" doesn't have faders, but still it's a mixer.

Seeyou 16.05.2005 02:49 PM

Re: MIDI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techno_7
Did you know?

MIDI is 1 's and 0's!

001110000101010000010001110000
0100001010101000001010101010101

That could be a midi signal!!!

Well... that could be a digital audio signal as well...

...a very short one though :lol:

Seeyou 16.05.2005 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
Hmm... Isn't it trivial to sepperate mixers and "analog summign devices" as the mixers are analog summing devices. I assume that this "analog summign device" doesn't have faders, but still it's a mixer.

I prefer "mixer" rather than "analog summing devices". It's more relaxing for the fingers while typing :D

techno_7 16.05.2005 05:20 PM

Re: MIDI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeyou
Quote:

Originally Posted by techno_7
Did you know?

MIDI is 1 's and 0's!

001110000101010000010001110000
0100001010101000001010101010101

That could be a midi signal!!!

Well... that could be a digital audio signal as well...

...a very short one though :lol:

Cool! I didnt know that!

jasedee 17.05.2005 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
Hmm... Isn't it trivial to sepperate mixers and "analog summign devices" as the mixers are analog summing devices. I assume that this "analog summign device" doesn't have faders, but still it's a mixer.

Stop picking nits Juho! When one says, "I just bought a mixer" it conjures up images of faders, EQ's, Aux sends/returns, Master outs etc....

When one says, "I just bought an anlogue summing device", what you would see is a 1 rack unit, plain box, with 8 ins and 2 outs on the rear.

Plus.....these analogue summing devices usually are of high quality, costing up to and above US$2000. Whereas a Mackie mixer with similar I/O costs peanuts.

Hollowcell 18.05.2005 01:01 AM

I had never heard of these analogue summing devices until now either! Learn something new everyday. :D


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