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Oasys 13.01.2005 12:48 AM

Powerspecs from Korg:
 
- VA synth (84 voices)
- CX-3 tonewheel organ with drawbar control (172 voices)
- 616 mb PCM (172 voices)1664 patches plus 1792 user
- 500 mb Sampler
- 16 Track Audio Recording with 40 gig hd
- Karma
- additional 511 mb Piano plus 2x 310 mb drums
- Expansion Instruments
- Sequencer
- Huge Touchview display
- massive modulation
- Oasys synth and wave sequences ala wavestation at another level.
- Organ, pcm and va can be combined in seceral ways
pluss lots and lots and lotssssss more

......ehhh if i only could afford it... It comes in two shapes: 88 weighted hammer action and 76 key synth action

Read more about it at sound on sounds forum:

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/sh...&fpart=1#69229

This info came from Korgs own site, they've since taken it offline

tranzash 13.01.2005 12:56 AM

Welcome Oasys :)

Who could afford this Korg? 8O $7000.00, God Bless.

grs 13.01.2005 04:04 AM

What is the VA part of it like/structured?
That would be the only thing of interest to true synthesis fans.
PCM - Blah!

ben crosland 13.01.2005 08:18 AM

We welcome spammers now? :roll:

DIGITAL SCREAMS 13.01.2005 08:59 AM

Nice specs for those who can afford it. But not for me.......

DS

Smag 13.01.2005 11:15 AM

Smells like a Hartmann.

blay 13.01.2005 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smag
Smells like a Hartmann.

smells like our new member oasys maybe someone from the korg marketing department :roll:

ben i wouldnt call this spam as there has already been considerable discussion on this form related to the new korg release.... and I am sure there are many members here that are very interested in this information. I'm sure you would agree with this.

cheers

blay

Juho L 13.01.2005 01:20 PM

If this OASYS is true and the price tag is 4000 euros or less, I'm going to get one for sure!

blay 13.01.2005 01:26 PM

yep im beginning to see why access rushed their release...

this new korg product truly is an 'innovation'.... if ti does what these initial specs say it is capable of...

starting to wonder if i shouldve waited to place a deposit on the TI :roll:

up2p 13.01.2005 01:28 PM

Nice, but...
Still TI seems to be the new standard. Unless KORG launches some "something TI" , I will still prefer Access solution.
Say a Korg Legacy TI, within some 61 key version of the Korg Microcontrol would be a VIRUS killer.
Right now, the only other company that I forecast going in this TI direction is Novation (depending on their new management...)

ben crosland 13.01.2005 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
yep im beginning to see why access rushed their release...

this new korg product truly is an 'innovation'.... if ti does what these initial specs say it is capable of...

starting to wonder if i shouldve waited to place a deposit on the TI :roll:

I really don't think this has anything to do with why Access announced when they did - it doesn't seem to be aimed at the same market for one thing. I also fail to see how they'd have got hold of the info that far in advance? I doubt Korg would have sent them a memo ;)

BTW - my spam comment was made before the topic was moved from the forum which is supposed to be exclusively about Access products ;)

blay 13.01.2005 01:35 PM

check out the specs that timo posted in the thread linked below and you may change your mind.

click here to view the specs...

SoundzplastikSurgeon 13.01.2005 01:36 PM

If you look at the Novation X-station $500, It already does a lot of the TI thingy, it's a universal remote controller for hardware/software synths ,usb , VA synth, act like a sound card, etc... Of course it's not the virus, but really Access, the only novelty is the hypersaw ?
So....I am pondering...good thing I didn't put a deposit down....

blay 13.01.2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben crosland
BTW - my spam comment was made before the topic was moved from the forum which is supposed to be exclusively about Access products ;)

no worries ben. :)

blay 13.01.2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben crosland
I really don't think this has anything to do with why Access announced when they did - it doesn't seem to be aimed at the same market for one thing. I also fail to see how they'd have got hold of the info that far in advance? I doubt Korg would have sent them a memo ;)


well i am certainly interested in both products and the both offer similar features - at this stage from my understanding the new korg is offering VA synthesis combined with a multitude of other features - i would consider it a competitor to the TI for those in the market for a serious VA.

i wish korg sent me that memo :wink:

cheers

blay

ben crosland 13.01.2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
check out the specs that timo posted in the thread linked below and you may change your mind.

click here to view the specs...

I've seen them already - it's looks like an impressive beast to be sure, but it's still a different market IMO. It's a full-blown workstation with VA capabilties, whereas the TI is a much more focussed product. For many, the Oasys will be a put off due to feature bloat. For others it will be the workstation of their dreams for sure.

Even if they were to release a board with just the VA spec, it doesn't make it a TI beater - just a competitor..I'm sure they will sound different enough from each other to mean that there is room for both.

blay 13.01.2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben crosland
Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
check out the specs that timo posted in the thread linked below and you may change your mind.

click here to view the specs...

I've seen them already - it's looks like an impressive beast to be sure, but it's still a different market IMO. It's a full-blown workstation with VA capabilties, whereas the TI is a much more focussed product. For many, the Oasys will be a put off due to feature bloat. For others it will be the workstation of their dreams for sure.

Even if they were to release a board with just the VA spec, it doesn't make it a TI beater - just a competitor..I'm sure they will sound different enough from each other to mean that there is room for both.

sorry ben this original message was directed at up2p.

i agree i think both units ahve their place in the market - i just hope they both start shipping at NAMM time :wink:

cheers

blay

Timo 13.01.2005 01:51 PM

There's no actual info about the physical modelling of instruments that was apparent on the "OASYS" PCI card a few years ago. The analogue and physical modelling synthesis is the stuff I'm after, although they already did the analogue aspect (AL-1). :/ No doubt they'll make a physical modelling board available sometime, if the synth doesn't already do it.

MADSTATION 13.01.2005 01:58 PM

Sounds great, but doesn't sounds like I'll be able to afford one...If 7000$ is the rumored pricetag, it's like 10 000$ CAN, that's more than 3 times the price of the TI POLAR!

blay 13.01.2005 02:01 PM

im interested to know....

this product allegedly has four high speed usd ports - i wonder if they deliver true high speed bandwidth or if it will be the same ast the TI and only deliver usb1.1 bandwidth?

saba 13.01.2005 02:04 PM

Nice, but meh.
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blay 13.01.2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saba
Nice, but meh.

thanks for your indepth response saba :lol:

care to indulge your reasoning for this 'meh'?

costs too much? TI is better? id be keen to hear your thoughts.

SoundzplastikSurgeon 13.01.2005 02:09 PM

That's another thing, why offer almost obsolete usb 1.1 when usb 2.0 has been out for at least a year already ?

blay 13.01.2005 02:17 PM

the more i read about this thing the more i like it.
the curiosity is absolutely killing me.

Tomer=Trance 13.01.2005 02:20 PM

it sure offers much but you got to remember that access is offering a simmiler product at half price if not less!

Timo 13.01.2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
it sure offers much but you got to remember that access is offering a simmiler product at half price if not less!

Similar?! They're totally different beasts!

blay 13.01.2005 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
it sure offers much but you got to remember that access is offering a simmiler product at half price if not less!

Similar?! They're totally different beasts!

from these initial specs i would say the korg unit can do most of what the TI offers, plus a WHOLE lot more....

MADSTATION 13.01.2005 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
im interested to know....

this product allegedly has four high speed usd ports - i wonder if they deliver true high speed bandwidth or if it will be the same ast the TI and only deliver usb1.1 bandwidth?

Yeah same here...
I'm so disappointed with the TI specs regarding USB...
Firewire would have been so cool(or at least USB2).
I'm sure this would have allowed more stereo outputs when using the vst interface! Because 2 stereo is shit if you ask me!

blay 13.01.2005 02:55 PM

i too would like to have seen more bandwidth but i think it wouldve come at too much of a cost, and access works to release their successive series' at the same price as the previous....

but imagine having 16 individual channels hitting your sequencer over firewire 800 :D

MADSTATION 13.01.2005 03:22 PM

I would have paid MUCH more for this feature actually!

I have a feeling that they will eventually release a firewire version...
And that kinda pisses me off since I preordered already.

blay 13.01.2005 03:28 PM

its always been at least a couple of years between releases for access...

if you want to cancel your preorder and wait around for a couple of years for a firewire TI be my guest - in the meantime i'll send you some nice hypersaw mp3 to keep you occupied :wink:

Merlot 13.01.2005 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben crosland
I'm sure they will sound different enough from each other to mean that there is room for both.

It would be nice for us to make that decesion ourselves. But it is kind of hard since we haven't even heard the TI yet. :wink: :wink:

blay 13.01.2005 04:19 PM

...we havent heard the korg either.
who knows - the korg unit mightnt ship for another 11 years :wink: :lol:

Merlot 13.01.2005 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
...we havent heard the korg either.
who knows - the korg unit mightnt ship for another 11 years :wink: :lol:

Korg didn't announce that it would be released a month ago either. :wink: To be honest, I can wait on hearing the Korg. Just want to hear the TI's new osc's! :lol:

blay 13.01.2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlot
Just want to hear the TI's new osc's! :lol:

yep - me too. :?

ben crosland 13.01.2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MADSTATION
..And that kinda pisses me off since I preordered already.

Don't be pissed off - you're going to love the TI :) And I can promise you it'll be worth the wait.

Another thing to remember is - there will doubtless be feature enhancements in future upgrades, just as there have been with all previous Access products. I wonder how many free upgrades there'll be for the Korg AL board?..

ben crosland 13.01.2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlot
Quote:

Originally Posted by ben crosland
I'm sure they will sound different enough from each other to mean that there is room for both.

It would be nice for us to make that decesion ourselves. But it is kind of hard since we haven't even heard the TI yet. :wink: :wink:

Well, you only have to look at the specs - Wavetables and HyperSaws don't seem to be implemented in the same way at all. In fact, even if both synths featured the same kind of wavetable oscillator, they would doubtless contain completely different wavetables. On top of this, the filters will sound different for sure, as will the effects. The overall sonic signatures are bound to be different anyhow.

MADSTATION 13.01.2005 07:35 PM

I agree with Ben, but since the market and music in general is flooded with the classic Virus sound, for quite a few people it might be more interresting to look @ what Korg is looking to achieve.

The wavetable feature of the Virus is AWESOME, BUT since we have so few details, it's almost fair to assume that there is a catch somewhere.

Hypersaw should be very interresting tho.


Don't get me wrong, I'm still in love with the Virus sound ;)

Bjorktribe 13.01.2005 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
if you want to cancel your preorder and wait around for a couple of years for a firewire TI be my gues

Has anyone else been wondering why The USB2 spec is being picked up so slowly? It may cost extra money to put in a unit but I think people aren't going to mind paying for something that isn't already being outdatted. :?

grs 13.01.2005 09:41 PM

It may be possible that the new AWSOME stuff on the TI doesn't measure up to everyone's expectations. I mean take the vocoder in earlier viruses for instance.


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