New Korg NAMM teaser!!!!!!
 

Check this out. It looks like the rumors were true about access trying to beat them to the punch. It looks like it has a flip up LCD, but I cant tell of the quick shot.

http://www.korg.co.jp/Open/

Looking at it again, do you think it is a new version of the Triton? I hope not!

Looks cack whatever it is......someone needs to increase the brightness aswell :lol:

ten

Hope not a new Triton; or if they make it better than the Fantom + _alot_ cheaper then i would be pretty intrested in that machine

sounds like its a z1 second generation.

hey look the clock on the korg web site is going backwards
looks like its 16 days to go.

Something about January 20th on Korg site.

I believe that it will be like Virus TI, but it really can't rival with quality with TI. I think it would be better for Korg to release Triton Extreme based workstation with that integration system isntead of average-at-best VA.

see this thread for pics and rumors over at KVR

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=894510

did you see the rumored price point? $7k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8O 8O 8O 8O
What home studio owner in their right mind would pay that. You know how much other gear you could buy for that $$$$

It indeed is huge! It has to be a sample workstation...

In this day and age......$7000 for a digital instrument? Doesnt look like the analog oscilaotrs are true after all.

My bet is that the guys at Access came up with the figure of $7000 hehehehe.....

DS :wink:

WHAT?!

Ok. Korg is in bankrupt. Old Tritons won't sell, Triton Extreme is mostly crap and a new super product that has so high price that only two units will be bought.

who knows they could have been working on this one for over 3 years and it might offer some outstanding features like granular,sampling workstation with a large hd,advence synthesis like tons of digital clasic oscilators,additive synthesis,vector synthesis,pysical modeling,multiplay evelopes,tons of fx,full modular stracture with an onboard computer with advence sequencer and few preamps,eq and dynamic tools. this would mean its the ultimate tool for production and you wont need anything alse other then monitors connected to this to product.

so...
it could be something revolutionary!

or......
and it might be just fat VA crap of thing which they are asking 6 times more money then they should. :D

remember the original price of the alesis a6-5500 euro and the neutron-6500 euro.

Probably somthing like this. I guess a mix of VA and sampler workstation. It's a good idea but hte price is just high and the quality just doesn't quite hit it.

If that thing cost $7k i wonder how long Korg will survive. Insane!

I've been expecting Korg to go bankrupt since the competition at workstation area really got going about year or two back. Korg really didn't do anything to improve it's products. It seems like Korg has been really callous in a "Nah, why to improve. We have a good name from Tritons in late 90's" style. Triton Extreme can barely keep up in the competition and the prices are higher than the alternatives. Korg needs huge change or it'll be in bankrupt.

We'll just sit back and watch then. hehe

OK, Check this out.

The most expensive synth on www.musiciansfriend.com at this time is:

Sale Price: $5,455.00

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...se_pid/703223/

OpenSynth neKo 64 Dual 1.4GHz Opteron 61-Key Workstation

The ad touts:

My point is that if the new Korg Tragedy costs $2,300 more than this beast, it should also provide this much functionlaity + $2,300 more, right?

That's gonna' be hard to do...

I think someone at Kord R&D is smoking crack!

Has anyone used one of these Opteron mothers????

-AlexHall74

Nobody outside of Korg has any idea home much this thing will cost, what it actually does, etc. Vendors were listing and taking pre-orders on the TI months prior to release (you have yours, right? mine's pretty cool), so it's anybody's guess when this thing really sees the light of day.

For example, there is no pure analog or hybrid design out there with any kind of polyphony for less that about $3k US, save the Dave Smith Poly Evolver, and that almost doesn't count (it sounds mighty cool, no doubt). Yet Moog has the stones to sell their mono thingy for over $3k US.

If this thing actually has a pile of analog or analog/digital oscillators with a lot of polyphony, parallel effects, etc., it would be pretty expensive. There is still only so much you can do between 20hz and 20khz that anyone wouldn't rather do on a PC (e.g., sequencing), however.

The Tritons (bar the Triton Extreme) have all been discontinued, so it looks like this new keyboard is a workstation replacement of the Triton line.

http://www.korg.co.uk/products/disco...scontinued.asp

[Edit: - This has since been found NOT to be the case - All Tritons (except Triton Classic, which was replaced by the Extreme) will remain in production for some time to come].

this is not a synth its a pc computer with buildin keyboard,audio interface and screen and its rather portable
i wouldnt buy such a thing-i rather buy a laptop and this things seperatly would probably get more power and cheaper price.

Ok, that's what it is.

I agree, buy a device for what it is good for.

Then if you get sick of it or it breaks you only get rid of one piece of gear, not three crucial pieces at once.

Thanks for clarifying.

Unless this thing is bad ass and affordable Korg is sucking wind as the competition blows by them.

-AlexHall74

All Tritons except the Triton Classic (which was dicontinued long ago, to make way for the Extreme) are NOT discontinued and will remain in production for some time to come, Jerry at Korg USA says.

It's looking more and more likely that this keyboard is the full-blown "OASYS" concept that has finally come to light! - A completely open-ended modelling synth.

Here's the form it was originally meant to be released in, in the mid-90's, but never got to see the light of day:-

http://www.vanille.de/extras/oasys/oasys.html

No wonder Access announced the TI early. ;)

Kick ass article Timo!

Good research find!

That would be a REEEEALLLY cool board to work with. That's a killer of a price though, way past my means!

We will all just have to wait and see.

Apparently, if this is the new digs, then what is to happen to the Triton Line?

Is that line not well on its way to being outdated?

The Triton is Korg's "flagship" synth, right?

It seems they should be focusing on making the next Triton crush the Fantom-X and Motif...

Maybe I just don't know jack-shit about marketing? 8O

-AlexHall74

>>Apparently, if this is the new digs, then what is to happen to the Triton Line?

http://www.irishacts.com/forum/phpBB...?p=77429#77429

Jerry's a bigshot at Korg USA, so his word is pretty much gospel.

If the $7K price tag is for the top-whack weighted 88-note version, then the 61 note version might be considerably more palatable. Some observers have mentioned the Triton Studio was around $7K RRP top whack originally, with the 61-note being more like $4K street price. If that is duplicated with this synth, it would possibly bring it within about $1K of the Access TI's prices. I guess it depends.

Still not cheap, but if it is indeed the OASYS engine then it would offer a good bang for the buck as it is insanely flexible. Limitless, almost.

Interesting times await.

Interesting article. I used to own a prophecy, and the modelling was superb to say the least. Some of the sounds you could get out of it were amazing.
It would be nice if it were 4k, but not alot of home studio owners could afford that board, including me.

regardless of what korg produces, all credit to them for the professional approach of their release....

it will be two months tomoro since access announced the TI series, and all we have heard or seen in this time is some pretty 3d renderings...

at least korg had the maturity to withhold any info until they could give a definate release date. :roll:

IPOF, if this is the realization of the Oasys concept, Korg did the bait-and-hold much worse than Access. The prototype was showcased at a few shows and delivery was promised again and again for a period of years until they finally shippped the PCI card version for Macs.

In truth, then, this unit was "announced" in something like 1995 and users have been waiting ever since.

Hiya mcoyote, the Oasys was much too expensive in its original form in 1994 - it was originally slated to have a $10K tag or something, and as it was so far ahead of its time the DSP available wasn't as powerful or cost-effective as they liked. Now, 11 years later, it's the perfect chance.

However, parts of the original R&D for the Oasys has since trickled into a lot of later Korg's products. - Wavedrum, Prophecy, Z1, Trinity, the Electribes, etc.

maybe we'll be waiting till 2016 for the damn TI. :roll:

my point is basically that i think it is poor form on access' behalf to announce and then no info for two months - not even an update.

if i had known it was going to take this long i would have waited to sell some of my stocks (which i wouldve received dividends from end of year) - also these stocks have risen $1 AUD in the meantime.

so forgive me for being a little annoyed by the premature release of information (especially if it were only for korgs benefit) :evil:

Must agree with you there blay. This is the second access product (first being powercore virus) ive pre-ordered because they said the shipping date would be one thing, then its delayed for an extended period of time for whatever reason. I could of used the deposit money for other kit or whatever in the meantime and paid for the TI with the pay cheque nearer its rell date.

Its bloody simple to me. DONT ANNOUNCE PRODUCTS TILL THEY ARE READY TO SHIP. Its a right pain in the arse for consumers to be made to keep waiting and waiting on things to be released when companies have already given release dates, even 'expected ones' (which obviously mean jack coming from access). If you cant keep release dates, dont give them or even estimations when you announce new gear, its pretty bloody simple. I for one would rather be totally oblivious to new kit until its totally ready to ship and I can actually buy it.

If this 'paper' announcement was in someway because access wanted everyone to hype to the TI instead of korgs gear then they should have more faith in thier own product and kept it quiet until either it was ready to ship or at least you had a DEFINATE date letting the buyers make up thier own minds.

And to top it off access havent given us ANYTHING else. No audio demos, no indepth specs and workings, no ideas on how certain features work. Surely they must know all this already, or will it be a suprise for us to find out for oursevles??? ooo, what joy.

ten

look what you have done access.
you made ten and i agree on something :lol: :wink:

i suggest access should give us an update on production on the 8th (exactly two months since first announcement) - it would certainly silence the preorder crowd for a little while....
even if howard could show us a copy of the new manual :wink:

You know what the worst thing is, Blay? I bet its still released with bugs and software problems that need several fixes and OS updates till its properly working.

ten

HC hopes so :wink: :lol:

i think access will get it close to right first time round.

This is great! These posts of hope are now turning ugly...... :)

It wont be long till the second wave of rebellion hits, and then who knows what? Bomb threats, Kidnapping? The seizure of Access HQ by Blay and Ten hehehe....

Blay you retard......I said dont tell ANYONE!!!!






































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ten

It seems to me that Access may have outed their announcement early when they got wind of this monster modelling Korg effort, so they could make the first splash with the whole computer "integration" thing and get pre-orders.
Fair enough that they don't want to release a buggy OS too soon (which is a lot more that can be said about many other companies, and must be heartily applauded), but I think it's a great shame Access haven't released a few audio demos or something small to tide us over. I'm absolutely desperate to hear the wavetable and hypersaw effort!

I have 5 black ski-masks at home.

I say we form a crack squad of TI commandos and storm the Access R&D center.

We then liberate a TI from the treacherous clutches of the nit-picking Access QA department.

At this point point we send a ransom note that the The HyperSaw Liberation Army will post on-line demos of the TI until Access formally issues a true release date for all other TIs.

I have lots of old newspapers and glue and can put a ransom note together in a few hours...

Who wants in?

Viva La' HyperSaw Revolucion!!!



:wink:

-AlexHall74

OK....Im in! I always wanted to be a commando.....

COOL!

We have three ski-masks left.

Who else is man enough to join The HyperSaw Liberation Army???

I'm going to start on the ransom note...

whenever a man offers me a ski-mask i am always in. wether its freaky porn or in this case - use of force too liberate the hypersaw of the TI