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Gopal 25.11.2004 11:20 PM

SH101s are cool :)
 
Just looking at getting one and thought I'd ask for some opinions.

Is it just good for bass? I've heard it does great hoovers too.

Thoughts, opinions welcome :)

jasedee 26.11.2004 07:10 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA............is this your idea of "Real Gear"?????

This is more of a toy than bloody Reason! It's a DJ toy, a groovebox type piece of junk. Sheesh!

:P

Blank 26.11.2004 07:21 AM

Dont listen to him...it actually sounds quite good...and for the price, not bad either...I dont know why he considers it a toy...its made up of all the same shit as the synths he uses...

peace
Blank

jasedee 26.11.2004 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank
Dont listen to him...it actually sounds quite good...and for the price, not bad either...I dont know why he considers it a toy...its made up of all the same shit as the synths he uses...

peace
Blank

Maybe so, but in his other post he categorised Reason as a toy, says that you should just buy "Real gear", and then in the next breath thinks this SH101 is obviously in the category of "Real gear".....

Seriously? And, the synths I use is Virus, which is definately not comparable to SH101.....not even the same league!!!

Blank 26.11.2004 07:45 AM

LOL hahaha

I could not stop laughing at your post...i forgot about his on reason...but i dont like reason either!! Now as for a toy...that would be FL studio...and i use that...now lets stack the 2 here...one makes sound...hmmm....so does the other...one is used as a musical instrument...hmmm...so is the other...one has knobs...hmmm...oh shit the other has sliders...uh well guess they arent the same :wink: :lol: :lol:

peace
Blank

jasedee 26.11.2004 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank
LOL hahaha

I could not stop laughing at your post...i forgot about his on reason...but i dont like reason either!! Now as for a toy...that would be FL studio...and i use that...now lets stack the 2 here...one makes sound...hmmm....so does the other...one is used as a musical instrument...hmmm...so is the other...one has knobs...hmmm...oh shit the other has sliders...uh well guess they arent the same :wink: :lol: :lol:

peace
Blank

I know what you mean.....I was just being bitchy :)

Blank 26.11.2004 07:51 AM

Trust me i completely understand...if you read some of my old posts with me a juho fighting...you would think im some overstressed women with menopause :twisted: :twisted: 8O :wink:

peace
Blank

jasedee 26.11.2004 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank
Trust me i completely understand...if you read some of my old posts with me a juho fighting...you would think im some overstressed women with menopause

Heheheheee......It's all love in here!

blay 26.11.2004 08:34 AM

sorry jasedee but the sh101 is no toy.
if you can find one in decent nick that doesnt have a 70cycle hum, the 101 might only be a monosynth - not much to it but whats there is quality. a friend owned one which he bought from his school music department back in the day (for $50 cause noone knew how to use it).
he sold it last year for $850.
just cause its made by roland and looks like a cheap version of a 505 does not mean that its incapable of producing decent sound (esp. bass)
:)

hatembr 26.11.2004 09:27 AM

101 is a toy ??? 8O come on !! most of the old trance tracks we enjoyed listening to have some 101 bass and lead sounds, especially oldschool goa! Astral Projection, Juno Reactor and all similar big names used to work with that analog "toy" !

jasedee 26.11.2004 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
just cause its made by roland and looks like a cheap version of a 505 does not mean that its incapable of producing decent sound (esp. bass):)

I never said it wasnt capable of pumping out some nice synth action

jasedee 26.11.2004 09:36 AM

:oops:

I know when to apologise.......

For some strange reason, when I saw the words SH101, I thought you were talking about the newer Roland SH synth, the SH32!!!!!

Am I a fuckin dickhead or what?????

I am officially taking back and retracting all of my previous statements, and can the mods please now change my nickname to "Dickhead"

Sorry mate!!!! My mistake

blay 26.11.2004 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasedee
Sorry mate!!!! My mistake

no prob :wink:

Blank 26.11.2004 10:22 AM

Hey i have an sh32 and its not that bad :wink:

really its not for the money...i just figured i would add to the fire LOL

Honestly guys the only reason he mentioned it in the first place was because Gopal said reason was a toy...and really if you can produce decent music with a playschool keyboard its not a toy...hey a girl i knew a couple years back had a guitar made out of a can guitar strings and a thin long piece of wood made some pretty cool sounds...so really anything can be a tool for music...and it was quite a negative comment about reason...and he had no right to say it!!!

So i understand why you said it Jasedee


peace
Blank

jasedee 26.11.2004 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank
So i understand why you said it Jasedee

Thanks guys......I was thinkin I would have to leave this place in shame for my comments ;)

Blank 26.11.2004 10:38 AM

Now adays i try to keep the peace as much as possible...because arguing with Juho made me realize its pointless...LOL

peace
Blank

blay 26.11.2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank
Now adays i try to keep the peace as much as possible...because arguing with Juho made me realize its pointless...LOL

argueing is only pointless if neither party listens to each others point of view. if you feel strongly about something then stand by it - you do not have to accept others opinions just because they shout them louder...

i think it would be sad if members here became afraid to speak their mind for fear of ridicule... i dont take criticism from people i dont respect - because their opinion means nothing to me.

dont go soft on us here blank :wink:

Blank 26.11.2004 11:13 AM

Heres the thing i stand by my opinions but if someone doesnt see my point...instead of trying to force my opinion down their throat or keep arguing hoping they will soon see it...i let them believe what they want and go on my way...

peace man thats what its all about :wink:

Blank

3o3 26.11.2004 11:18 AM

Err.. what is this; SH101 is a nice little synthesizer.

And what the hell you guyz are arguing about is something i gotta catch up with later.. I just woke up.

Blank 26.11.2004 11:19 AM

yeah and i have to get out of because i have to go to sleep...


the disgruntle american leaves the building

peace
Blank

blay 26.11.2004 11:22 AM

i agree mate - but there is a fine line here......

some people just cant handle confrontation...
...and others thrive on it.

which of the two gets the outcome they desire? unfortunately that's life.

i believe its all about finding that happy medium 8)

DIGITAL SCREAMS 26.11.2004 01:37 PM

The SH101 is one of the nicest sounding 1 osc analog mono's out there. Nice rich sounding waveforms....classic Roland filter. VERY good for clear rubbery basses. Snappy envelops.....versatile synth.

Alot of people use the 101 for 303 acid bass (funny but true). I highly recommend this synth. However, for about ?100 more you could pick a Pro-One or Mono-Poly. The P1 and MP are in a different league in terms of girth, dirt and versatility. Forget minimoogs.....go for P1's every time.

Ill email you a few sounds....

DS

blay 26.11.2004 01:41 PM

hows the availability on the pro one/monopoly DS?

DIGITAL SCREAMS 26.11.2004 02:02 PM

Well here in the UK I use www.sospubs.co.uk or www.rlmusic.co.uk to source old analog synths. Availability is good. For people in australia....Id say you should go look at Japanese specialist dealers or online auctions...

There are alot of SH101's, Jupiters and Mono-Poly's floating around over there. Here back in the UK they are a little lighter on the ground. We tend to get more of the American manufacturers i.e. Sequential.

DS

Tomer=Trance 26.11.2004 02:39 PM

its too damn expensive here
not worth the 400 euro they usualy ask for it.

Onkel Dunkel 26.11.2004 07:37 PM

Since i only produce music on an amateur/hobby basis i would say that all my music equipment are toys (including my Virus) and boy do i love playing with my toys (especially my Virus) :D

If you produce music professionally the toys become tools.

* The only thing that changes when boys become men is the price of their toys *

Blank 26.11.2004 10:32 PM

Well put Onkel!!!

peace
Blank

Hollowcell 27.11.2004 10:43 PM

SH101, wicked little mono. Chunky bass and really intersting real time control. I see them selling all the time over here - I wish I bought one when they were cheap, but recently the price has jumped here. :cry:

How much are you getting it for?

The only thing I've heard that goes wrong with them is tunning. This is usually related to the power switch in some way (don't ask me how though).

RS 18.12.2004 12:13 PM

I think the sh 101 is a wicked little mono synth..

Any one heard of Joy Kitikonti, writes more on the tech/trance stuff..
The track Joy Energizer is a complete egsample of what the sh 101 can do :)

Its by far the best synth for full LFO efx..

I do belive it was used by DJ Isaak for on the edge, sample a lfo stab cut it in half and you will get the sound he uses :)

Tomer=Trance 18.12.2004 12:36 PM

im not a big fat of that commercial music
but joy said that track was done almost completly on the nord lead.

Gopal 28.12.2004 07:44 PM

Gopal is a dickhead, SH101s are great :)
 
:)

Juho L 28.12.2004 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gopal
I would just like to say that you've all been a great big bunch of dickheads. Next time I need an answer to a question I'll go down my local music shop where people will just answer the FREAKIN QUESTION!

Err... Ahem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS
The SH101 is one of the nicest sounding 1 osc analog mono's out there. Nice rich sounding waveforms....classic Roland filter. VERY good for clear rubbery basses. Snappy envelops.....versatile synth.

Alot of people use the 101 for 303 acid bass (funny but true). I highly recommend this synth. However, for about ?100 more you could pick a Pro-One or Mono-Poly. The P1 and MP are in a different league in terms of girth, dirt and versatility. Forget minimoogs.....go for P1's every time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC
The only thing I've heard that goes wrong with them is tunning. This is usually related to the power switch in some way (don't ask me how though).

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS
I think the sh 101 is a wicked little mono synth..

Any one heard of Joy Kitikonti, writes more on the tech/trance stuff..
The track Joy Energizer is a complete egsample of what the sh 101 can do icon_smile.gif

Its by far the best synth for full LFO efx..


3o3 28.12.2004 08:21 PM

He is just loco.

Anyways; I do like those sh101. If you pick up a SH101 be sure to get the mod-grip aswell and you got a really nice live synth.

For some reason thou, i have never looked at the SH101 as an bass-synth, i look at it more of an lead-type of synthesizer with some really nice tweaking-capabilities.

EDIT: HC -> I've heard about the same thing - a friend of mines owns a SH101 that works perfect but if he touches the power-button it goes out of tune. On another forum a member from Roland answered the question that the powersupply (or something equal) had an design fault (or something similiar) however you could always order a new one that works fine and they are really cheap. In sweden they would cost 70:- SEK ($10) for a new power-supply.

Tomer=Trance 28.12.2004 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3o3
He is just loco.

Anyways; I do like those sh101. If you pick up a SH101 be sure to get the mod-grip aswell and you got a really nice live synth.

For some reason thou, i have never looked at the SH101 as an bass-synth, i look at it more of an lead-type of synthesizer with some really nice tweaking-capabilities.

EDIT: HC -> I've heard about the same thing - a friend of mines owns a SH101 that works perfect but if he touches the power-button it goes out of tune. On another forum a member from Roland answered the question that the powersupply (or something equal) had an design fault (or something similiar) however you could always order a new one that works fine and they are really cheap. In sweden they would cost 70:- SEK ($10) for a new power-supply.

well alot of clasic analog synths go out of tune
i heard you got to tune the minimoog almost every week.

Gopal 28.12.2004 08:51 PM

Yeah, I am loco! And I make crap music too![/quote]

3o3 28.12.2004 08:54 PM

Quote:

i heard you got to tune the minimoog almost every week.
Alot of my friends that got minimoogs doesn't got this problem at all; just let the analogue warm up first before you play.

Gopal; Bah. Just because you are loco doesn't mean your music is bad. post a clip - i'd like to hear some mate

Gopal 28.12.2004 11:35 PM

I will post a clip when I have written something I'm proud of. Everything sounds like 2 dimensional shite so far. I think I'm more of a producer than a composer, but I'm crap at that as well so far.

Juho L 29.12.2004 01:08 PM

What the heck is loco?

Tomer=Trance 29.12.2004 02:11 PM

loco means crazy in spanish.

XLR8A 29.12.2004 05:50 PM

I sold my last analogue synth 2 years ago and i got rid of all vintage synth
bullshit that i stupidly collected over the years. About SH101 i must admit
that it was one of my favorite ones, very good filter and phat oscillators.
Today it worth between $250 to $350 depends on condition, and i highly
recommend to buy a midi>cv converter from PhilReese or Kenton.

@Tomer=Trance,
Today the price of SH101 in Israel is around 1500nis, i know that some
people may ask even 2500nis for it, but i don't believe that anyone
will really pay more than 1800 for it.

:D


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