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DJ REMIDI 01.04.2004 06:58 PM

Musikmesse 2004
 
Is Access not participating? I was hoping for a new model of Virus (Classic doesn't count). How disappointing....

Timo 01.04.2004 08:07 PM

Ah, not to worry, take it as a good sign. - It means the next offering will be even more highly-evolved. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Can't wait! :D

Tomer=Trance 01.04.2004 08:21 PM

im hoping to see a new access synth not a virus
maybe an affordable analog synth to compete with alesis andromeda 6

Hollowcell 02.04.2004 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
maybe an affordable analog synth to compete with alesis andromeda 6

Now that would be worth looking at!

That Classic shouldn't count as a new product IMO.

DIGITAL SCREAMS 02.04.2004 06:48 AM

Yep I agree with Tommer & HC. Access is probably one of the most successsful synth companies in the world today.....

Therefore, I think its about time ACCESS manufactured a true analog monosynth. I want it to sound dark, dirty, very fat, warm and I dont want 'polite' sounding filters or weak sounding oscilators. Ideally it should have 3-4 oscilators and great modulation possibilities (i.e. sequential pro-pro). Simple patch memory storage would be a bonus. I reckon it would be possible to mass produce analogue monosynths for less than 750 euro's.

I also beleive that accesse's flagship synth should be a true analog poly.....and that the Virus should remain for those of us who cant afford a true analog. The 'Virus' brand is such a strong one....I dont think it would be sensible for Access to get rid of it as a brand name. I think we will see many more incarnations of the 'Virus'

One of the wonderful things about the Pro-One is that when u play it....your having such a great time....that the thought of its utter shite build quality rarely comes into the head!

DS

Tomer=Trance 02.04.2004 06:49 AM

but why monosynth DS ?
to keep the price low?

Juho L 02.04.2004 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
to keep the price low?

Yes.

About that DS's flagsip idea: Would a completely analog flagship be a good idea? Because Access should have to redesign the filters and most of the internal structure, getting that synth on market would cost a lot and that means high market price. And then we get a point how many people really want (not to menation can afford) that synth? I say it would be quite a risk with big chance in ending up with a completely unprofitable semi-analog synth on their hands.

Have you noticed that all the bigger companies have gone bankrupt after they have released semi-analog flagship synth? Coincidence or what?

3o3 02.04.2004 07:15 AM

I am with Juho on this one, but however it would be nice if they could release a Poly-analouge synth that cost 1000 Euro ;)

TommyS 02.04.2004 08:00 AM

Perhaps a fully modular virus would be a good next step.

They have a good base to start. Just build up from the modules in the C, add a few extra`a and i think it would sell.

:D

ben crosland 02.04.2004 08:05 AM

I think it is highly unlikely that Access will develop a true analog synth - they have no experience in this field after all. The main man at Access is Christoph, and he is a DSP genius - not an electronics engineer (AFAIK!) - the parent company is called Kemper *Digital* ;-)

IMO it would be ridiculously risky to throw all their DSP expertise down the drain to venture into the notoriously unprofitable analog market.

Juho L 02.04.2004 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyS
Perhaps a fully modular virus would be a good next step.

They have a good base to start. Just build up from the modules in the C, add a few extra`a and i think it would sell.

Yes. That could be very likely option. At the moment Clavia is the only one making modular VA's and I think Access would be very strong competitor on that area (actually I think Access would make way better modular system than G2). I wouldn't be suprised at all to see a modular Virus in the next Musik Messe. Access has already managed to make an incredible single DSP VA so I can't even imagine what they could fit in quad DSP modular system.

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Originally Posted by ben crosland
IMO it would be ridiculously risky to throw all their DSP expertise down the drain to venture into the notoriously unprofitable analog market.

Yes. It would be insane and Access could end up in synth company graveyard.

DIGITAL SCREAMS 02.04.2004 10:27 AM

Grrrr.... I guess ur right. Software programming and custom analog components are two seperate entities. Let me savour the thought for a few more minutes......ah......

A polyphonic modular Virus would be VERY nice. SO would an FM Virus and a PD Virus heeheeheh....how about a wavetable Virus aswell?

DS

Timo 02.04.2004 10:45 AM

nooo no modular, me lovee virus all in one box, thankee.

A wavetable/vector-synthesis addition would be massively funky, with immense "Z3ta+"-style waveshaping and incorporating importable PCM single-cycle oscillators (along with a touchscreen)!
Failing the touchscreen, a small oscilloscope display would be nice. :) Failing that, a Scart/CRT/DVI connector/output 'add-on option' to display screen on an external consumer television/monitor would be cool. :)

A hybrid of physcial-modelling would be cool too, a l? Korg Z1/OASYS. No need to be realistic (that would be extortionately expensive), but Z1's isn't realistic, but some way-funky timbres can be pulled out of it when using the physical-modelling algorithms as often the standard 'analogue' oscillator waveshapes like saw/sq/sin etc are boring in comparison! Let's get away from that set mould.

Integrated retro 8-bit synthesis/emulation would be ace, too!! - Ie. C64 (SID) synthesis, etc. (lol, couldn't resist ;) )

As would the ability to 'load-in/import' and utilise VST plugins into the synth for use on patches live.

MORE CONTROL PLEASE. Need an XY joystick, and an XY pad (like the Z1/Kaoss) or a ribbon controller at the least. No point in having all that synthesis power if you can't interact with it flexibly from the control panel.

Er, that'll do for now ;)

Tomer=Trance 02.04.2004 01:07 PM

i know i'l be selling my virus if a virus modular will be released :o
i think people prefer the access sound over the clavia but right now the nord modular just offers what access doesnt

Juho L 02.04.2004 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
i think people prefer the access sound over the clavia but right now the nord modular just offers what access doesnt

Yup. I bet that Access would get nice profits from a modular system. Also a synth based on a different synthesis mode would also be a good idea. But of course there's always a small risk involved when trying something completely new.

tranceNRG69 02.04.2004 04:18 PM

I got a Nordlead 3 Keyboard and a Virus B, I prefer the Nordlead. Take off the virus effects and compare the sound to the Nord3 which has no effects, you'll be surprised. The Nord is so lush and expensive sounding. And that interface is so awesome, i can program for hours. But I love the Virus and use both about the same. :D

Tomer=Trance 02.04.2004 07:02 PM

i use nl2 and virus and they complement each other perfectly so i dont think there is any reason to compere between the two
for me its a whole different type of sound (well joho... you know what i mean... :wink: )

DIGITAL SCREAMS 02.04.2004 11:49 PM

Re: Musikmesse 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ REMIDI
Is Access not participating? I was hoping for a new model of Virus (Classic doesn't count). How disappointing....

Errmmm.....what do you expect? A new synth every 18 months? THats a little too much to expect from any manufacturer. I think we will see some new products come out 2005.

DS

Timo 08.04.2004 02:01 PM

Re: Musikmesse 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ REMIDI
Is Access not participating? I was hoping for a new model of Virus (Classic doesn't count). How disappointing....

Errmmm.....what do you expect? A new synth every 18 months? THats a little too much to expect from any manufacturer. I think we will see some new products come out 2005.

DS

Access can take as much time as they need if they're making a new synth, hopefully it might suggest it's a revolutionary or heavily-evolved design in the process. There are some things you can't rush. ;) Glad I've got an Indigo in the interim!

Timo ;)

PS > Nice to see the forum's back up! :)


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