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Hollowcell 18.12.2003 12:52 AM

Can anybody help me?
 
im looking for feedback!!!

ive been searching the net but i cant seem to find feedback samples....none of my CDs have feedback and the only thing i can find on the net close to feedback is white noise and pink noise (although they arent close to feedback at all 8O )...

so if any of you guys have any...or you know a site that has feedback samples...please let me know..

udenjoe 18.12.2003 05:45 AM

The only thing I could say is make it yourself. I'm not sure exactly what kind of feedback you are looking for. Usually it is noise. That's what noise groups do. They make noise and play noise with things like feedback. You can make it in your mixer.

Hollowcell 18.12.2003 05:59 AM

im looking for guitar feedback mainly...trying to get a feedback sound like that in the desk is difficult..

TommyS 18.12.2003 08:15 AM

http://www.findsounds.com/types.html

http://www.sound-effects-library.com/

http://www.samplearena.com/sites.htm

Also have you tried using some delay with combfilters to get feedback sounds. Its not really like guitar feedback but its different. :D

Drammy 18.12.2003 11:03 AM

Hollowcell,

There is a great little VSTi called Slayer which generates all kinds of guitar sounds, feedback amongst them!

Don't know if you are using a VST sequencer but definately worth testing a demo if you are.

The moment you press a key on your controller you can play guitar like the pros, from Eric Clapton thru to Slash!

Martyn

Juho L 18.12.2003 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martynreid
The moment you press a key on your controller you can play guitar like the pros, from Eric Clapton thru to Slash!

Yes... Right.

udenjoe 18.12.2003 03:20 PM

You can get some bird sounds from a modulated chorus pedal.

I still say make them yourself. Get yerself a guitar or just the pickup and some strings. Face it towards the amp or whatever is your sound producer.

Just sample a clip from a live album from like My Bloody Valentine or God Speed You! Black Emperor or better yet since you are in Japan go see some guitar monsters like Merzbow or Acid Mother Temple and bring a mini disk. There are tons of people doing noise and guitar art in Japan.

TommyS 18.12.2003 03:47 PM

Dont get slayer 2. Its the biggest pile of horse shit ever.

Slayer 1 is ok. But for a good guitar sounding vst it has to be Hardcore Bass VstI by East West.

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/...tml?sku=EW-156


:D

Hollowcell 19.12.2003 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyS
http://www.findsounds.com/types.html

http://www.sound-effects-library.com/

http://www.samplearena.com/sites.htm

Also have you tried using some delay with combfilters to get feedback sounds. Its not really like guitar feedback but its different. :D

thanks tommy...ill go thru those sites today, keep my fingers crossed!

no i havent tried using a comb filtered delay..im not sure if its the thing id be looking for though...

Quote:

There is a great little VSTi called Slayer which generates all kinds of guitar sounds, feedback amongst them!

Don't know if you are using a VST sequencer but definately worth testing a demo if you are.

The moment you press a key on your controller you can play guitar like the pros, from Eric Clapton thru to Slash!

Martyn
i hadnt thought of using one of the VST guit thingys!! i wouldnt use a VST for guitar sounds fully..i just want the feedback...so i thinkn ill give it a try! thanks martyn.....cant beat real guitars for guitar sounds IMO....one more thing i cant afford to bring over from ausi-my guitar!!

Quote:

I still say make them yourself. Get yerself a guitar or just the pickup and some strings. Face it towards the amp or whatever is your sound producer.

Just sample a clip from a live album from like My Bloody Valentine or God Speed You! Black Emperor or better yet since you are in Japan go see some guitar monsters like Merzbow or Acid Mother Temple and bring a mini disk. There are tons of people doing noise and guitar art in Japan.
unfortunately i dont have access to a guitar over here..although ive been recording a friends bass....but he doesnt have a decnt bass rig to feedback on...the only time i record his bass, i run him thru a preamp then straight into the desk! plus - the only amps i have are in both my monitor speakers (and of course a little valve preamp)! im not sure if its a good idea to feedback bi-amped monitors....although id probably get a fresh new sound....

yeh i thought about sampling off an album..but it would just be easier to get it off the net IMO....ill keep on looking....and ill experiment today with some stuff me thinks!

Juho L 19.12.2003 12:37 AM

Why don't you just take a mic and stick it near a speaker. Just control the feedback with mixer volume. There you have a feedback loop.

Hollowcell 19.12.2003 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
Why don't you just take a mic and stick it near a speaker. Just control the feedback with mixer volume. There you have a feedback loop.

theres nothing quite like getting the tail end harmonix from a guitar though juho....

3o3 19.12.2003 04:03 AM

Uhm, if i could get my brother to get my electric guitar + amp i could probably sample some feedback to you - distortionfeedback - and loads of it..

I could also fix the little tone-control on it, since when i built it i didnt wanna spend to much time with the electrics since i was really late with it and had to perform for my school with it.. so i just made the basic - it features a cutoff + resonance control acctually :)

synthesizer-guitar

Hollowcell 19.12.2003 04:08 AM

sounds cool to me 303!

3o3 19.12.2003 03:42 PM

Alright, i'll try to get my guitar soon then..

Hollowcell 22.12.2003 04:14 AM

thanks 303! i appriciate it!

hey tommy,
thanks for the links to those sites! there are some great spin off links too...i didnt seem to find guitar feedback, but i found tonnes of great quality samples of everything else!

if anyone else is interested in samples i got this file from another forum...i guy by the name of dopamine put this list up...

EDIT: the list has been moved to the "sample sites " thread...
http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/viewtopic.php?t=1830
here

Tomer=Trance 22.12.2003 06:25 AM

8O wow
i think it will take me a week to look into all of this links

3o3 22.12.2003 10:32 AM

a week? hahaha - i am not even gonna go thru half of that list.. anyways thanks for the links hollow.. I'll try to get my electric guitar home asap and sample some for ya

Hollowcell 23.12.2003 12:08 AM

thanks 303, i look forward to hearing them!

i havent gone thru half that list yet...i dont think i will get thru the other half either!

3o3 23.12.2003 12:38 AM

Do you want usuall feedback also? ie not distorted kind?

Hollowcell 02.01.2004 12:45 PM

yeh, i can always add distortion after wards i guess...

Juho L 22.01.2004 05:14 PM

www.kolumbus.fi/juho.lepisto/Feedback.mp3

Distorted feedback.

Edit: Played around with distortions and mic and remembered that you were looking for this kind of sound.

Still needing it?

That's one minute clip full of feedback.

Edit 2: Very nice when listened with headphones. Felt like there's a feedback loop in my brains. I listened to it woth low volume and still I got a headache. Sick!

Blank 22.01.2004 10:00 PM

Nice Juho, i like your sample...its funny as shit it sounds like a drunk guitarist wanding around stage...i dont know thats the only thing i can picure...I was about to throw up just by listening to it...


peace
Blank

Hollowcell 22.01.2004 11:37 PM

thanks juho! i havent actually listened to it as yet because i only have headphones and im a little scared to blow my head off.

Juho L 22.01.2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
thanks juho! i havent actually listened to it as yet because i only have headphones and im a little scared to blow my head off.

It's not loud feedback. It's limited by a distortion so it's constant scream. But it does cause headache even on low volume.

Hollowcell 22.01.2004 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
thanks juho! i havent actually listened to it as yet because i only have headphones and im a little scared to blow my head off.

It's not loud feedback. It's limited by a distortion so it's constant scream. But it does cause headache even on low volume.

ok then.

just had a listen. its not exactly what im after, but i will run thru the system later to see what i can get out of it...

i managed to get some pretty good guitar distortion recently from a guy over here..i havent processed that yet either...ill do both together..

thanks again mate

Juho L 23.01.2004 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
just had a listen. its not exactly what im after, but i will run thru the system later to see what i can get out of it...

I recorded a longer clip so that you can take the parts you like (especially those where the feedback frequency changes) and loop them.

Hollowcell 23.01.2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
just had a listen. its not exactly what im after, but i will run thru the system later to see what i can get out of it...

I recorded a longer clip so that you can take the parts you like (especially those where the feedback frequency changes) and loop them.

yep, thats what i meant by run it through my system.


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