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Jade 08.11.2003 02:04 PM

Should I use my Indigo II to create drumloops?
 
I wonder if there is anyone who uses the Indigo to
create drumloops. I wanna find an easy way to apply drums
to my music, either way with the Indigo or
with a sequncer or with a.... ???

Tomer=Trance 08.11.2003 02:37 PM

i would say use a sequencer, a sampler (software can do) and a good sample cd....

Panopticon 08.11.2003 10:12 PM

There's no reason you can't get excellent results with the Indigo, sound-wise. Pragmatically, it will be easiest to get the best results using it in conjunction with some kind of sequencer; but you can certainly coax plenty of nice analog drum and percussive sounds out of the Indigo.

udenjoe 09.11.2003 03:32 AM

You'd need a sequencer to make the loops.

Tomer=Trance 09.11.2003 04:09 AM

yeah i agree you can get some great analog drums out of it but you must have a sequencer

Hollowcell 09.11.2003 10:44 AM

jade, what type of music are you making (or do u want to make)?

Jade 09.11.2003 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
jade, what type of music are you making (or do u want to make)?

Cool boy ;), I make electro music with a bit touch of industrial influences. I like the hard and clean sound. But with my new synthesizer it will be much easier than before, when I only used samples and loops in a sequencer.

Jade 09.11.2003 02:13 PM

The drummer
 
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Originally Posted by udenjoe
You'd need a sequencer to make the loops.

Well, I use cubase... but I'm lousy when it comes to drums. I really have no idea of how I should program the drums.

What you mean is that I should make loops and then pattern them, into my music? :idea:

Jade 09.11.2003 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Panopticon
There's no reason you can't get excellent results with the Indigo, sound-wise. Pragmatically, it will be easiest to get the best results using it in conjunction with some kind of sequencer; but you can certainly coax plenty of nice analog drum and percussive sounds out of the Indigo.

So, tell me how you do it! =)

Juho L 09.11.2003 02:23 PM

Why don't you make a multi patch, where you would make a drum mapping?

Hollowcell 10.11.2003 03:40 AM

for the type of music u wanna make, u could always have a multi setup (as juho said), with each sound running a different appegiator for the drums...this way u will just need one note on each midi channel to trigger the beats off....

there are really many ways of getting drums down...and im sure most people do it differently.

experiment and find the way that suits u the best is my advice. have fun

udenjoe 10.11.2003 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jade
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Originally Posted by Panopticon
There's no reason you can't get excellent results with the Indigo, sound-wise. Pragmatically, it will be easiest to get the best results using it in conjunction with some kind of sequencer; but you can certainly coax plenty of nice analog drum and percussive sounds out of the Indigo.

So, tell me how you do it! =)

You want to know about the sounds? or sequencer?

Smag 10.11.2003 02:39 PM

I'm having a nightmare getting drums sorted out to go with my Virus C. The sample CD I got for ?69 "Ueberschall Techno Essentials" is not really that crisp and you can get similar standard samples free on the net. Then I got NI Battery to play drum samples in Cubase, but it turns out my version of Cubase won't work with it and if I want it to, I will have to upgrade to Cubase SX and if I want to do that, I'll need Windows XP.......... :? It's swings and roundabouts at the moment.

If you find some decent, pro sounding drums then let me know (Please!!!)

Jade 10.11.2003 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smag
I'm having a nightmare getting drums sorted out to go with my Virus C. The sample CD I got for ?69 "Ueberschall Techno Essentials" is not really that crisp and you can get similar standard samples free on the net. Then I got NI Battery to play drum samples in Cubase, but it turns out my version of Cubase won't work with it and if I want it to, I will have to upgrade to Cubase SX and if I want to do that, I'll need Windows XP.......... :? It's swings and roundabouts at the moment.

If you find some decent, pro sounding drums then let me know (Please!!!)

As you said, there's a lot of good samples and loops to find on the net. Well, why don't you try to make your own loops instead? I'll go for it, because I want every part of my music to be something I created. Ok, maybe not the instrumental sounds... but at least the composition.

Jade 10.11.2003 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by udenjoe
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Originally Posted by Jade
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Originally Posted by Panopticon
There's no reason you can't get excellent results with the Indigo, sound-wise. Pragmatically, it will be easiest to get the best results using it in conjunction with some kind of sequencer; but you can certainly coax plenty of nice analog drum and percussive sounds out of the Indigo.

So, tell me how you do it! =)

You want to know about the sounds? or sequencer?

Well, I just want to know how you loop sounds in for example cubase. I've never done that before... Instead I've been using others' loops, but I think it's time for me to learn how to do it. Btw, what kind of music are you doing?

Jade 10.11.2003 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
for the type of music u wanna make, u could always have a multi setup (as juho said), with each sound running a different appegiator for the drums...this way u will just need one note on each midi channel to trigger the beats off....

there are really many ways of getting drums down...and im sure most people do it differently.

experiment and find the way that suits u the best is my advice. have fun

You're talking about the synthesizer and not about the sequencer? Just wanna make sure that I understand you. Well... I'm trying to find out how my indigo II works, especielly in multi-mode. The manual could be better :wink:. I miss the tips, but that's why I'm here to get some back-up and you seem to know what you're talking about.

Smag 10.11.2003 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jade
Well, why don't you try to make your own loops instead? I'll go for it, because I want every part of my music to be something I created. Ok, maybe not the instrumental sounds... but at least the composition.

I never use ready made loops, Just samples of the individual instruments.

Hollowcell 11.11.2003 12:17 AM

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You're talking about the synthesizer and not about the sequencer? Just wanna make sure that I understand you. Well... I'm trying to find out how my indigo II works, especielly in multi-mode. The manual could be better . I miss the tips, but that's why I'm here to get some back-up and you seem to know what you're talking about.
im talking about the synth itself....for example if u have a seperate drum sound on each of the 16 parts...then set the appegiator mode to "hold" on each of the parts...u can scroll through the parts in multi/multi-single mode and trigger each drum off....

having said all that though....my honest opinion is sequence in cubase rather than use the appegiators for this task...it will give more editing options and the like....

by the way, to loop in cubase..all u have to do is set the left and right locators to your desired loop length, and highlight the loop function...(im using cubase vst32 by the way) .....press play and your looped.....after u create your loop, then u can copy and paste the parts of the loop to create the general structure of your track..

hope this helps ya out a little....

udenjoe 11.11.2003 04:09 AM

I use a Machinedrum from Elektron (Sweden). It's great for electro or industrial. You can check it at machinedrum.com. I'm giving you hardware examples. Another possibility is an MPC 1000 or a used MPC 2000 from Akai (Japan). These two are my choices for drums and sequencing.

As far as cubase goes, you are going to want a drum soft synth or sampler to make the loops. It is possible to make them on the Indigo, but it would be easier to sample the indigo and use a dedicated unit to put it together into a drum sequence or loops. Look around and try some demo versions of software to see what you like. Use www.synthzone.com for references.

Jade 13.11.2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
im talking about the synth itself....for example if u have a seperate drum sound on each of the 16 parts...then set the appegiator mode to "hold" on each of the parts...u can scroll through the parts in multi/multi-single mode and trigger each drum off....

having said all that though....my honest opinion is sequence in cubase rather than use the appegiators for this task...it will give more editing options and the like....

by the way, to loop in cubase..all u have to do is set the left and right locators to your desired loop length, and highlight the loop function...(im using cubase vst32 by the way) .....press play and your looped.....after u create your loop, then u can copy and paste the parts of the loop to create the general structure of your track..

hope this helps ya out a little....

Yeah, thank you very much, that was very descriptive. ;)

Jade 13.11.2003 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by udenjoe
I use a Machinedrum from Elektron (Sweden). It's great for electro or industrial. You can check it at machinedrum.com. I'm giving you hardware examples. Another possibility is an MPC 1000 or a used MPC 2000 from Akai (Japan). These two are my choices for drums and sequencing.

As far as cubase goes, you are going to want a drum soft synth or sampler to make the loops. It is possible to make them on the Indigo, but it would be easier to sample the indigo and use a dedicated unit to put it together into a drum sequence or loops. Look around and try some demo versions of software to see what you like. Use www.synthzone.com for references.

Ok... do you think I can use cubase with a good result? Actually I was thinking about a drum machine and you gave me some good tips about that. But I'm going to figure out how it would work with the indigo and a sequencer if that's a possibility.

3o3 13.11.2003 06:56 PM

Machinedrum is really nice not only for drums, its great for fx, synthesizer sounds, blipp & blopps, and as a hardware sequencer.. When i had mine i used it as a hardware sequencer for my PAiA 9700s + microKORG.

And its not your regular TR909/TR808 either. Infact it doesnt even contains any of those sounds (not even if you tried you couldnt get TR909 sounds from it)

pef 14.11.2003 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 3o3
Machinedrum is really nice not only for drums, its great for fx, synthesizer sounds, blipp & blopps, and as a hardware sequencer.. When i had mine i used it as a hardware sequencer for my PAiA 9700s + microKORG.

And its not your regular TR909/TR808 either. Infact it doesnt even contains any of those sounds (not even if you tried you couldnt get TR909 sounds from it)

how much did you pay for your machinedrum ? used or new ?

i heard many people saying this box sounds amazing

3o3 14.11.2003 12:41 PM

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how much did you pay for your machinedrum ? used or new ?
I paid 8500:- SEK (which is around 850euro) second hand, when i sold it i got 9500:- SEK (950euro).

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i heard many people saying this box sounds amazing
It does! have you ever heard a drummachine produce sounds like this? or like this?[/url]

saba 15.11.2003 12:19 AM

That is a lovely kick in the first sample track, it hits hard. Mmm.
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