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Hollowcell 15.10.2003 12:58 AM

Is this a Problem? LCD Screen on a VC.
 
its started to get a little colder here in Japan. and i have noticed when i first turn the VC on, then flick through patches quickly, the screen kind of stalls between them...after about 2 or 3 minutes when flicking through the patches, the change over is really sharp!

im guessing the LCD needs to warm up....but none of my other gear does this (but none of my other gear uses a red screen either)....

do any fo you other guys have the same experience? specially those of you in the colder places of the world.

saba 15.10.2003 05:40 AM

How cold is cold?

In Melbourne recently its been falling to around 5C overnight, and I haven't noticed anything unusual.

Yesterday it was 25C and I didn't really want to switch on the virus in such temperature ;)
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Wendie 99

Hollowcell 15.10.2003 06:35 AM

getting down to about 14 or 15 degrees C....

its been summer here, and i didnt notice it at all then..35 degrees C with 90% humidity on some days....worked fine...

its only for the first 2 or 3 mins...the screen when i first turn it on seems like it still displays the last item on the screen for a little longer than it should....for example: if i turn a cutoff knob, then while cutoff is displayed i turn the reso knob, and there is like a ghost image or something....same goes when switching patches too...

after a few mins the thing is fine!?! the screen changes from parametres really quickly with no ghosting...

mmmm...

hopefully someone can tell me bout this...

its not such a problem at the moment, but if it gets worse in winter (-4 or -5 degrees C), it will be anoying having to wait for an LCD to warm up...like an old TV or something...

Tomer=Trance 15.10.2003 06:54 AM

juho lives in finland and it seems he doesnt have any problem with that and they have about -30,-40 in the winter and -5 in the summer :D

Hollowcell 15.10.2003 07:00 AM

i think he has a VB though...

Tomer=Trance 15.10.2003 07:14 AM

yeah i thought about it ,could be a fault in the vc
maybe ask access about it? if its true and it realy has a problem you should get a case for it to keep it warm when your not working with it

Juho L 15.10.2003 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
yeah i thought about it ,could be a fault in the vc
maybe ask access about it?

No, no, no. Don't bother.

LCD display gets "slow" when the temperature drops, i.e. the characters fade slowly instead of vanishing immediately as usual. The backlight of the display warms up the LCD module in few minutes and that explains why the display works fine after a while.

Edit: Usually LCD's get slow in really low temperatures 10c and below, but because VC has a non-standard red display the temperature ranges may differ from the basic green LCD and in this case the display is more sensitive to low temperatures.

Juho L 15.10.2003 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
juho lives in finland and it seems he doesnt have any problem with that and they have about -30,-40 in the winter and -5 in the summer :D

We have -30c to 0c in winter and 20c to 30c in summer.

Hollowcell 15.10.2003 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juho L
LCD display gets "slow" when the temperature drops, i.e. the characters fade slowly instead of vanishing immediately as usual. The backlight of the display warms up the LCD module in few minutes and that explains why the display works fine after a while.

yeh i rekon so too....maybe the red display has different temp threshholds.....so i havent noticed it with n e other stuff....i just hope the life is as good as other colour screens!!

ive noticed another thing too....the screen gets really warm...more than n e others in n e gear ive used....the VC is a special little beast i guess!! it better last the distance!!

by the way juho....-30 is fucking cold!! i dont really know much about finland, do u guys have n e mountains close by to where u live...ever hit the slopes?? although -30 u may as well use iceskates on the mountains rather than a board!

Juho L 15.10.2003 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
ive noticed another thing too....the screen gets really warm...more than n e others in n e gear ive used....

Depends on the method of backlight. Electroluminence backlights get really hot when LED backlights are just slighty warm. There's nothing wrong with your LCD. It's just non-standard display, so it differs a bit from others.

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by the way juho....-30 is fucking cold!!
It is bloody cold. Good thing that usually few days of a year are that cold. Usually between -10c and -20c.

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i dont really know much about finland, do u guys have n e mountains close by to where u live...
Mountains and Finland don't mix. No mountains in here. Just few hills and that's it. But there are arctic hills in the northern parts.

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ever hit the slopes?? although -30 u may as well use iceskates on the mountains rather than a board!
I've been to Halti few times (one of the biggest arctic hills) skiing. I'm more traditional skier than mountain skier.

Hollowcell 16.10.2003 03:31 AM

im really lookin forward to this years snow season...i couldnt hit the slopes last year so much, so this year im gunna have to head out more (i hope n e way)...

scottyp 31.10.2003 07:23 PM

juho is right - most LCD's I've seen do that in the cold. My Nokia cell phone does exactly the same thing if I've left it out in the car overnight -even after letting it warm up for 10-15 minutes before turning it on. (It's a green LCD display)

I'm in Canada so we know cold here too!

Royal Tee 01.03.2004 06:35 PM

Same Here........
 
Search tool is working......
Anyways, I just got the C and when I turn it on the exact same thing happens. Slow display for a few minutes then all is fine.
Mine is a Refurb so I was hoping it wasn't defective. Kinda Sux to see others having this "Issue" :cry:

Other than that I upgraded the OS, Installed new Patches, Created new Libraries via SoundDiver all this within a week. I'm lovin' it.
Now time to Infect the World !!

Muahahahahaha......

DIGITAL SCREAMS 08.04.2004 02:51 PM

Hurrayyy the forum is back up...I was worried it had gone for good 8O

HC is ur Virus back yet?

HC if i were u i'd upgrade and get the KC....purely for playing pleasure.. Its definitely a keyboard for keyboardists hehe#

*Can u post some mp3's of ur Nord2 m8 (just some individual sounds u programmed on it)

Thx

DS

Hollowcell 09.04.2004 01:18 AM

Yep, got my VC back about a week or 2 ago. I was lucky I took a small digital video of the problem in action, because when they recieved the VC they said they couldn't find the trouble. But when they watched the video they could see the trouble clearly. So they sent me a new one.

One thing though, the new one has really sticky output/input jacks! I am a little pissed off about that to tell you the truth, but I don't want to send it away for 2 more months! If those inputs and outputs die on me though, there will be some negative spam.

(explanation of the original prob here; http://www.sinesub.com/virusforum/vi...0b242272bf41b6 )

Remind me by PM in about a week or so regarding the samples of the NL2. I'll be happy to put some up. I'm busy at the moment, so I wont get a chance this week, and I'll forget by next week! hehe

DIGITAL SCREAMS 09.04.2004 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
One thing though, the new one has really sticky output/input jacks! I am a little pissed off about that to tell you the truth, but I don't want to send it away for 2 more months! If those inputs and outputs die on me though, there will be some negative spam

What does stick output/input Jacks mean? DO u mean that its a bit of a tight squeeze? Considering the Jacks are not secured to chassis...u want to be careful not to stress them. Well HC, welcome to my 5 KC hell.

I bought my first Virus KC 31st May 2003. I recieved my 5th KC last week. Hopefully I canow get on and enjoy the synth for what it is without having to send it back! Negative spam?! I can feel your pain......maybe you can begin to feel mine lol!

One positive thing about ur new VC is that the Headphone socket has alot more clarity now. THey have adressed the noisy headphone issue.

DS

ben crosland 09.04.2004 10:52 PM

I've been experiencing the slow display problem since I put my Virus C in my music school - the premises have been getting very cold during the night. I don't consider it an issue though - after a few minutes warming up it responds just as quickly as it used to at home.

Hollowcell 09.04.2004 11:44 PM

Sorry Ben, DS and I aren't talking about the screen warm-up anymore.

We are talking about the problem I had concerning the LEDs. When I recieved my new VC from the warrenty return the Inputs/Outputs are really tight (Yep a tight squeeze DS - I'm scared to unplug/plug cables in them, that's how tight they are) - and how that has pissed me off, because it took a long time to recieve it, I don't want to send it off again. Maybe Access could send me another, then I'll send this one off when it arrives?

Also another thing Access should talk to the people in Japan about - When I sent the VC off, I wrapped it in alot of bubble wrap and made sure when it was in transit it wouldn't move around, but on the way back it was loose in the box! I was surprised it made it honestly.

Here is the original problem I had. http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/viewtopic.php?t=1961

Royal Tee 16.04.2004 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben crosland
I've been experiencing the slow display problem since I put my Virus C in my music school - the premises have been getting very cold during the night. I don't consider it an issue though - after a few minutes warming up it responds just as quickly as it used to at home.

Mine still does it even though The weather in My studio Is controlled by me! :?

It goes away after about 2-3 mins.

303lovesit 16.04.2004 08:50 AM

Hay hollowcell why you send you VC back? what was up with it?

Glad you have it back to say the least!! I couldnt hanndle not having mine around barely a week never mind 2 months!!!! :?

Hollowcell 17.04.2004 01:00 AM

Yes I did send it back, but after almost 2 months a new one was returned to me. This was the problem in regards to the return http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/viewtopic.php?t=1961

The only problem is, the new one has sticky/tight inputs and outputs.


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