Rising sound
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbo...nseschallenge/

TommyS posted this link some time ago and there's that scale thing where the both C's are exactly the same but still the it seems that the scale rises all the time.

The page says that effect is achieved by mixing same frequencies and the ear automaticly picks the highest one. Does anyone know how those frequencies are mixed? It would be great to have infinitely rising FX patch.

seems like to me they mixed octaves puting on the first one...the lower octave on a higher level and the second one the higher on a higher level...

thats what it seems like... C3-C4...............then C4-C3 where the second is the higher in volume...atleast something of the sort...
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im not sure of what u r doing to...there is a point to it...the pitches in between were still raising in the octave...its just those 2 that werent...im sure u will still reach the end...

Hey, I'm not quite sure what you mean...
Made an mp3 of what I thought you might looking for..
http://www.trancex.dk/test.mp3

sorry about the bad quality...made a mistake when I converted it :roll:

I dont think that is what hes lookin for...he wants to make a never ending scale...which can be done but we will never hear it... :lol:


peace
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ok :roll:
didn't know exaclty what he meant about that question :D
just wanted to record something I guess 8)

On muusikoiden.net there was a theory like this:

C3-C4
D2-D3
E2-E3
F2-F3
G2-G3
A2-A3
B2-B3
C3-C4

I don't think that's so simple.

I found a way to make that kind of rising sound but LFO3 needs to be triggered. Damn!

well why dont u use your sequencer to trigger the notes? why r u tryin to do it straight from the virus...?


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Trigger what notes? I'm trying to clear up what frequencies I'll have to use.

ok maybe this will help....

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/notes.html


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I know the basic note frequencies but what bloody frequencies are needed for that trick.

Trying to figure out the frequencies in sequencer might (will) take hours.

You had them listed b4...where r u having problems...that scale u listed b4 didnt work?


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No it didn't. It was too obvious to work.

Another theory says that when you have lots of base frequency multiples (110, 220, 330, 440, etc.) removing some of the multiples from the middle causes that effect.

I am familiar with this effect as a result of playing the guitar. The only reason the two notes sound different in that test is because of the scale between them....I have written a song that has a guitar part that goes, for example, G2 F2 E2 D2 G1 (where all of these are played as power chords with an octave doubler). Since a guitar doesn't go low enough to play the last power chord, I just repeat the first one, but in the song it sounds lower than the preceding four chords. Also, this only works with the octave-doubler, if I just play single notes or two-note power chords, the last G doesn't sound an octave lower....

You can probably mimick this with the Virus with pitch modulation and distortion. I would think with a minimal pitch modulation of 3Hz or so, (where you can hear the same note 'sing' to itself) and a good bit of distortion, and double the note played with an octave. Maybe even throw in a fifth in the mix for good measure....

Hope this post isn't completely obscure......

I tried to make this sound again and now it worked!

Just set Osc1 to -48, Osc2 to 0 and Osc3 to +48. Then set LFO1 Osc1 and Osc2 modulation to -60 with slow saw waveform. Add lots of reverb/delay and voil?!

Edit: The reason why it didn't work last time is that last time I used too narrow frequency range (-24, 0, +24).