Progressive rock bank
 

Pretty silent in this section. Well maybe a new topic will bring it back to life.

I'm working on a progressive rock bank. Mostly classic sounds from Keith Emerson (aka the god in the keyboardists' heaven) and few of my own patches including stunning leslie B3's. If you know any classic sounds from prog rock scene let me know and I'll try to duplicate them. Starting to run low on ELP sounds.

By the way is there anybody else out there who plays progressive rock with Virus?

greattttttttttttttt
beautiful idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's my kinda music
try to do some sound from Jens Jhoansson, Kevin Moore, Derek Sherinian...

Ancient threads come back to live! *horror choir*

That's what I thought, but as you can see the idea was not-so-good for others.

Hoho. These are more heavy metal/hero metal keyboardists. I've sold my Virus so I can't do any Virus patches for you, but I can instruct you to make sounds you want. Just mail me a clip and I'll try to get something out of it.

Great idea! although im not a great progressive rock fan (unless you
consider King Crimzon progressive which im not) but certainly there
is a big collection of classic sounds put to use by this bands.
and from my experience wiyh Juho analyzing me a Pink-floyd sound
you can definitely can trust him to find those sounds (even without
his long gone but soon to be bought again Virus :lol: )

The late 60's and 70's Crimson is progressive rock at its best. In 80's it started to get strange fake-artistic psychedelia and in 90's it became more heavy than rock. Crimson is a very strange band in a way that it has always been changing. The lineup has changed atleast million times and every Crimson record is different. I love the first records and dislike the late productions. I'm a bit conservative prog rocker. Fripp is very innovative guitarist but it seems that the innovation got out of control and resulted as not-so-good art music.

Yes. I'm planning to start creating these classic sounds again on my Nord Modular. A bit easier task with that one than with Virus. For example some of Emerson's Moog Modular patches are really nasty to recreate properly on Virus, especially when there's complex filter routings used. For example the Hoedown intro fx patch (which is my dearest child) and two Tarkus patches in my Virus sound set are outcome of hours of listen & tweak.

Well, that sound was so simple that it wasn't wery difficult to get right. Usually all Minimoog patches are magnificent examples of simplicity combined with great sound. There's two instruments on earth that fit in any kind of music: First one is Hammond B3 and second one is Minimoog.

I'll buy a Virus keyboard again when I can afford it. Probably will get a kD or Plague. Hoho.

I do know a Prog Rock band that did some recording in Malmo. They're called Parrallel or 90 Degrees (PO90) and supported The Flower Kings about a year ago. Their influences are early "Genesis" and "Yes" and "Van De Graaf"and they use a Supernova 2 as the main source of prog rock sounds, they're very fond of it.

The Flower Kings... I've never "learned" to like these new prog bands. It seems that nowadays most of the bands who claim to be progressive rock are either metal or basic rock with synths and finding new "loyal" prog bands is almost impossible. Well, maybe I'll just put up a band of my own.

Good idea Juho :D

*However, plz dont make too many organ sounds hehe :oops:

You are a good programmer Juho....I respect that.

DS

Indeed!

B4 is th eultimate hammond source, but I thought to make hammond patch on my Modular just to see how good hammond I can get with it.

Of course. But you should respect me anyway because I'm the moderator here and I have power to edit your messages.

Didn't know you finally got the Nord Modular,congratulations bro.

I've bought my Modular ages ago, but haven't got it here yet. Just have to wait Sebastian to send it to me.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/juho.lepisto/Prog.mp3

Thought to post this remaster of Sivuainevalinnan Vaikeus.

By the way, might you Exalibur be interested in playing guitars for the remake of this song? I'm going to make a modern version of this song. This original version is more done like it would have been done in the good ol' days (moog horns, simple synths) and I'm planning to add good orchestral samplings, cathedral organ, a bit more complex synths, live bass, more guitar + maybe even vocals.

Edit: + real drums if I happen to find a drummer. Maybe even some rearranging is needed.

Great piece of work,did you write it? wow!

I'd be honored to do that, the only problem is my poor man computer
if you'll think of another way to do it,let me know or maby(hopefully)
by the time you renew the track i'll get a decent computer with a
good recording setup.

I've written that. Mostly playing with prog rock clich?s.

Hmm... What kind of recording setup you have at the moment? You really don't need ultimate high-end system. Even older computer can run for example CoolEdit with one track playing the backgrounds and second track for your recording. Even decent recording is ok for me because all the quality flaws are not so clear when the guitar is playing with the background.

You could record as "dried bread" sound, which means that you just take the signal from your amp line out to your soundcard line in. I can add amp sims and process the track for better outcome later. For example all the guitars on Herkkusieni's Paranoid are recorded that way with CoolEdit and Soundblaster and the sounds are ok.

My computer is an old Pentum 2 with a really bad sound blaster SC
when ever i try to record audio,even one track, it's falling down on me.
can't you're brother lay the guitar track? (he is a guitarist,no?)
anyway,when you'll have the remake,post it and i'll try to think
about another solution.

Hmm... That's strange. Pentium 2 should be able to record single stereo 44,1 16-bit track easily. Even my ancient 486 66MHz could record that.

Yes, but he doesn't have a computer and there's about 120km distance between me and him.

Ok. It'll take pretty long so you have plenty of time to think up. I could get these guitars done by the same people than on Herkkusieni productions, but I thought it would be nice variation to get you to play the guitar. But let's see how the things go.

OK,cool,in the mean time i'll listen more to the piece and learn the parts.

Ok. But be prepared for structural changes and even some additional parts. Feel free to make your own riffs and solos there.

I'm a litlle afraid it's kinda out of my league,those guys are
quite a guitar monsters and i'm afraid i wont be able to fit in
their shoes..last night i worked on the song and maaan..very
complicated stuff..i'm more of a "slow-hand" blues kind of player
but hey..i'll take the challenge and hopfully the changes of structure
will fit my style better..shoot, that was an ego blaster for me..

BTW i have managed to get a Cubase score and recorded two
tracks of music last night but the latency is very big..

Who do you mean?

It's just big plus that you're more blues player! I hate players who think the speed is the essence, which is not. They tap stupid minor scales in 32th's with 180bpm and think it sounds good. It doesn't sound good, it sounds like technique practice. Play the track in your own style. Add your own licks & stuff. I don't want speed, I want it to just sound good. I can add a short blues part there for you to play solo on if you want to.

Actually there sohuldn't even be any fast parts. For example on the Trakus-like part in the beginning the guitar goes just the C-c-G-F# loop ("C" is lower C and "c" is C one octave higher) on every bar. There the shortest note is 1/4 (but it has high tempo so it's a bit faster than usual 1/4's).

That might be a bit too heavy program for recording on P2. Does it work fine (otherwise the latency)?

You could also try out that CoolEdit.

Whoever plays the guitar parts (dont tell me it's you using samples :D )

Ok man you made me feel very comfortable about this..can't wait
to listen to it and see how will i contribute..thanks.

Well that version has real guitars only on that heavy intro part and that groovy part after the medieval theme.