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namnibor 29.01.2013 09:17 PM

Thanks, TIMO! Yes, the plethora of USB v2 on my DAW PC are indeed of the HIGH SPEED variety and they have indicator's that state 3X the power supply capability over "standard USB". So, in considering any new audio interfaces coming out of NAMM (Roland comes to mind but no idea cost), or any improvements on existing Audio Interfaces from NAMM announcements on the likes of PreSonus, et al, one needs not neccessarily have to sacrafice a limb to gain the well-touted RME variety, right? Will have to look at NAMM listings of AI of the highspeed usb variety. what I have read over and over is on the Firewire side, if you do not have a Texas Instrument chipset Firewire 400/800 on your PC, may not get same performance. Odd that something like Firewire would have a non-standard and i guess that's where as you have clearly showed, the term "Universal Serial Bus" is indeed here to stay. Thanks again and will look at rest of NAMM listings that kind of got buried by Korg, DSI, and Moog.

TweakHead 30.01.2013 03:50 AM

You can also find RME's cards on usb connection. When thinking of thunderbolt, I remember Apolo's interface (by Universal Audio) has the option to use it, along with usb - and that thing also gives you access to their dsp based high end plug-ins.To my mind, it's worthy of the investment for those that can afford it, as it takes some effort out of the cpu for mixing, processing, etc, while providing even greater quality... But you get RME's incredible low latency even using the usb connection, there's a couple interfaces that let you use either usb or firewire, and one of them uses the usb connection only. It's rock solid quality...

But you'd probably get away just fine with something less expensive. It depends on what you want, really - both the number of connections, the quality of pre-amps and converters, the stability of the drivers. Search for reviews for that, don't go with the feature list of the manufacturers. But Roland (or Cakewalk) has a very solid reputation for audio interfaces, Motu does to, TC Electronics also, just to name a few...

TweakHead 30.01.2013 01:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxXXf9U_CVk

found this one! there's also a description of its features here. since this guys were asked by DSI to design some patches for the new thing ;)

namnibor 31.01.2013 01:22 AM

COOL! I think this is first time ANY synth has been able to create sounds of the likes of Microwave XT...those analog filters make ALL the difference!!! The orig. Korg Wavestation lacked real filter section and have read where many owners today use external analog filtering to try to achieve what DSI have here!!! This really fills one with terrible GAS!!!

Berni 31.01.2013 05:57 AM

I think I'm going to wait for access to put out a new model before I buy another hardware synth :p

namnibor 31.01.2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by namnibor (Post 302415)
COOL! I think this is first time ANY synth has been able to create sounds of the likes of Microwave XT...those analog filters make ALL the difference!!! The orig. Korg Wavestation lacked real filter section and have read where many owners today use external analog filtering to try to achieve what DSI have here!!! This really fills one with terrible GAS!!!

DSI are doing it right combining wavetable with analog filters on the NAMM Prophet 12. Waldorf *only* placed real analog filters on their Microwave 1 and although the Microwave II/XT/XTk can make sounds only until NOW have ever hear ANY synth make, the Prophet 12, those analog filters make a night and day difference and that can be heard in A/B comparisons between Microwave 1&2 AND on DSI Evolver series where a real analog VCF LPF is on each R/L of stereo path and then of course Evolver has a digital HPF further down path on both sides as well.
That YouTube demo of sound design examples made for Prophet 12 demonstrate to ears how much an analog high pass filter ALSO makes a HUGE difference. THIS synth is appealing to other "Waldorfians" than myself and this DSI Synth is more of the evolution many would have liked to have seen come forth from Waldorf (the Blofeld is a VERY powerful and capable synth with many cool filter algo's--no complaints here).
I could see adding the prophet 12 a little later on down time's road and then I would be personally forced to decide which to hold onto, the virus KB or the KC for shear space...maybe!:evil:

TweakHead 31.01.2013 12:36 PM

I'd keep the Virus C for the analogue filters alone... would never part from those!

namnibor 31.01.2013 12:57 PM

Thanks! I actually in all honesty would keep BOTH of them because the keybed on both is phenomenally expressive and I am not into the debate of which version of Virus sounds better, etc., but whether the AD/DAC's, the Virus B has more BALLZ in the low-end, and the arp can be made to do some really cool things when you set the envelopes to where it is a motion-filled-drone, et al!! AS aformentioned, have elot on my plate to digest and learn, which is a great thing because am very much into aspiring to learn and apply those in the real world. That's what's SO great about well-written manuals such as the Virus and most of Waldorf, and DSI MonoEvolverkeyboard manuals--they take you through exercises and through repetition of these and mastering, then move onto another block. DSI Desktop did not have such as great manual but that Expositional Thesis Anu Kirk wrote definitely applies to all Evolvers and can only imagine the Prophet 12 having a well-written manualk for as deep and complicated it's matrix is. Thanks again for sharing that YT video on some of the sound designer's work and I BET Steffan Trippler (DocT) had his hand in some of the presets as well as he did ALOT with the Evolver's second set which was in OSv3 for the MEK and the Desktop Evolver.

Timo 31.01.2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berni (Post 302418)
I think I'm going to wait for access to put out a new model before I buy another hardware synth :p

Never thought I'd hear that from you.

Has someone hijacked Berni's account?

namnibor 31.01.2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo (Post 302426)
Never thought I'd hear that from you.

Has someone hijacked Berni's account?


Perhaps he is literally quite beside himself today?:rolleyes: :p


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