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absynth 21.07.2009 07:37 AM

but the question is which benefits would it bring to use vc in 64 Bit mode?

VC is not a sampler which needs lots of RAM, and as i said you can make a plugin 64 Bit Processing also in a 32 Bit OS

i´m shure access would bring out a 64 bit version but only if it really would make any sense

zeno 22.07.2009 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by absynth (Post 292017)
but the question is which benefits would it bring to use vc in 64 Bit mode?

VC is not a sampler which needs lots of RAM, and as i said you can make a plugin 64 Bit Processing also in a 32 Bit OS

i´m shure access would bring out a 64 bit version but only if it really would make any sense

There are many advantages to running on a 64 bit platform, and the ability to use >6gb is only one of them.

Fact is, many machines coming out now are 64 bit. Windows 8 will be 64bit only. Sooner or later, all 32 bit software will be antiquated, just like 16 bit.

Also, think about it. No one JUST runs VC. I run my host system (ableton) with rewire from Renoise and Reason. I also use other plugins. I also do a lot of video editing. It makes most sense for me to run these systems under 64 bit - It's MUCH faster. If I want to use the VC plugin, I have to boot into windows xp 32 bit mode. I believe you will see more and more professionals demand 64bit compatibility for all their software.

I understand what you mean though. One nice thing about the TI, is it offloads a lot of processing. But even my UAD-1 powered plugins card from Universal Audio has 64 bit drivers.

At the same time, I'm willing to give Access all the slack they need. VC is a great piece of software that goes with a great piece of hardware. Converting the drivers to a 64 bit platform will take time and resources on their part, undoubtedly.

DNME 22.07.2009 07:13 PM

doesn't even matter what platform, almost every company is making 64 bit drivers, why is access waiting so long? My nord g2 has 64bit drivers, my Motu stuff has 64bit drivers. :confused:

Logicology 24.07.2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by absynth (Post 292017)
but the question is which benefits would it bring to use vc in 64 Bit mode?

What benefit? Are you kidding?! The benefit is that you could use it. Without 64-bit drivers, you can not use the "TI" of the Virus on a 64-bit OS. period.

And you're going to have to do some reading if you don't understand the benefits of a 64-bit OS. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it worthless. And you are confusing 64-bit audio processing with 64-bit computing, and 64-bit drivers with 64-bit sampler software, and the Virus Control with the Virus TI drivers.

In my case 64-bit is an absolute nessecity. (dealing with huge orchestral templates of about 20 GB of samples in RAM.) That is impossible with a 32-bit OS. Therefore, I am unable to use the Virus TI in my film score projects.

We need 64-bit drivers for the Virus TI... c'mon Access! What is the problem here?

absynth 24.07.2009 08:46 PM

thats exactly what i was saying, your using a sampler you need 64 bit os to use more memory

but why should a company like access care about that you are using a sampler? just think about it

incubatid 25.07.2009 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by absynth (Post 292110)
thats exactly what i was saying, your using a sampler you need 64 bit os to use more memory

but why should a company like access care about that you are using a sampler? just think about it

Oh god.

Perhaps because they are pretty much the ONLY audio company yet to release 64bit drivers? Even M-Audio had them out about a year ago now, and that's saying something! :rolleyes:

absynth 25.07.2009 08:04 AM

why not blame Microsoft for again releasing an OS which is not giving you more RAM Support for 32 Bit and Releasing 32 and 64 Bit?

i´m not saying access don´t put out a 64bit driver but i can understand them what the real problem is of that 64 bit situation

so as long as there isn´t a good solution, maybe windows8 (64 bit only), i think it would be better they save their time in making some usefull new features for VC and an Effeckt Plugin to use in any Sequenzer (even damn Cubase)

Mindfields 25.07.2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by absynth (Post 292122)
why not blame Microsoft for again releasing an OS which is not giving you more RAM Support for 32 Bit and Releasing 32 and 64 Bit?

more than 4gb is not possible to control when using 32 bit. The address space simply cannot get bigger.
(i know they have made some kind of, workaround in some server versions (PAE), but its not good enough for music production)

It's not Microsoft's fault! it's pure facts.

And memory is not the only hog in the 32bit .. I am using a system with Core i7 CPU, and it works alot faster when only calculating in 64bit, instead of emulation 32bit...

its the future...

chiaro 30.07.2009 08:50 AM

I got this response from access support today, still no ETA but better than the previous response i got.


Thank you for your email. We understand and appreciate the growing need for 64bit compatibility with our software. It obviously is in our interest to support as many hosts and operating system platforms as possible, and work on a 64bit version of our software suite is already underway with our R+D team, and is a priority for us. We, as a policy, do not give out ETAs, timeframes, or speculate on weeks or months for any of our releases, as it is very hard to estimate these things with any reasonable accuracy. 64bit computing is the future, and rest assured, we will be supporting 64bit operating systems in the near future.

With very best regards,

Joerg Huettner
Access Music Tech Support

absynth 30.07.2009 11:39 AM

ok....and also happy beta testing again on 64 Bit

i´m not gonna waste my time with that


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