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AlexHall74 06.01.2005 09:03 PM

OK Gents,

I have a piece of info from Tweakheadz.com member synthologist:

Quote:

synthologist wrote:
If you are into rumor and speculation, try this post from Harmony Central:

http://duet.harmony-central.com/foru...hreadid=823819

Any facts of course, will be delivered at the upcoming NAMM show.
This info seems to be pushed towards the possibility of this being a late release of the Oasys platform...

Enjoy!

We are now back on topic Tomer=Trance! :wink:

-AlexHall74

Timo 06.01.2005 10:37 PM

I think we've established it may be OASYS. ;)

>>This info seems to be pushed towards the possibility of this being a late release of the Oasys platform...

However, the stuff that Artur spouted at the top of the thread was ripped from the Vanille.de site, and that stuff is years old. Artur just turned it into a synopsis simply because he heard the name OASYS mentioned on the forums.

The guys there don't know jack all about any more insider info confirming it 100% one way or another, or adding to any info that was already freely available from the OASYS-PCI back in 1998.

I'm hoping it IS OASYS though, as it would be a monstrous concept. And an equally monstrous price tag. :roll: If a 61-note synth action version came under $4K street price, I might even consider it over a Polar TI. I loved the flexibility of Korg's significantly more basic "Moss", but the sound quality of the Oasys is completely on another level to Moss. You could program a hypersaw and wavetable in a release of Oasys as it was meant to be (back in 1994, when the Korg visionaries imagined such a concept, but didn't have the available technology at that time), I'd imagine, which is what I'd be getting a TI for (as well as the Virus characteristic sound, of course). I think that blue joystick effort may even be a hint to wavestation wavetable madness, who knows?
However, I'm not paying owt more than ?2K for a ruddy synth, though, no matter what it does! hehe

Tomer=Trance 07.01.2005 01:29 PM

let me get this stright
the OASYS is a prototype synth built by korg in the early 90s or did they buy the rights on this from the original manufacture/inventor ?

Timo 07.01.2005 02:23 PM

OASYS is a 100% Korg concept, and it was researched and developed by Korg's team:- http://www.irishacts.com/forum/phpBB...?p=76341#76341

It was meant to be released in this keyboard form:



http://www.vanille.de/extras/oasys/oasys.html

...but it was, I think, too big a concept for its time in 1994 (and still for many years to come). I remember reading somewhere a good while ago that Korg did absolutely massive research on it all, but computer DSP restraints really did put it on a back burner, so much so that, in its earliest stages, they had to "render" sounds offline as opposed to being able to 'play' them in realtime as the synthesis models were so advanced. However, when the keyboard version was meant to be released, it would've also had a street price of around $10K. But they never eventually released it.

Instead, they released the Wavedrum in '94 which was just one physical model of an acoustic drum, the Prophecy in '95 which used a tiny portion of the analog modelling research, and then the Z1 in '97 which used a little more, in the form of more physical models, but even the Z1 had such restraints in that they had to effectively stunt OASYS to fit it into the Z1 hat.

OASYS is "open architecture", so while the Z1 (using MOSS) is using "fixed" algorithims (ie. for the standard analog, comb filtering, ring-mod, oscillator sync'-mod, cross-mod', FM analog-based models as well as the organ, electric piano, strings, plucked, reed, bowed and brass physical models), the OASYS was meant to allow you to effectively design and load up ANY algorithms, not just those ones given (as in the Z1), and then it allow you to do whatever you want with the sound from there on.

In OASYS, there were meant to be no "standard" types of oscillators, LFOs, EGs, filters, etc. restricting you (although preset algorithms are given, as they were on the Z1 for example - I think the OASYS-PCI card released back in the late 90's had even more algorithms, and a better sound quality than the Z1), but OASYS was meant to be totally flexible in that when any new synthesis types are born and created, you can effectively load the algorithms into OASYS and play it like it were a new keyboard. - In other words it's pretty much always upgradable. The sound you get out of it is only limited to the algorithms that you put into it! Very similar to the G2 Modular, and Reaktor I'd imagine.
So, if you wanted a Hypersaw, for example, you could effectively program it in!

Freakily, it's resembling more and more like my (heated?) argument with Ben Crosland a while ago. http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/vie...?p=19945#19945 . I thought it would never happen. And I half-hoped Access would do it first, if it did.

I'm wondering if because Korg released modelled VST-I's of their MS20, Wavestation and PolySix that they might even bundle these algorithms within their OASYS architecture too. Who knows? That blue joystick looks very Wavestation-like!

I think you might even be able to program your own effects, too, but I don't know enough about it to speculate further. I heard that whatever you can do with SynthKit, you can import the equivalent into OASYS.

AlexHall74 08.01.2005 03:34 AM

CHECK THIS ONE OUT PEOPLE!!!
 
I have been mining other forums for info on the new Korg, and found this:

Quote:

synthologist wrote:
Here's something from Roland (maybe).

http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultim...;f=18;t=012656
Could the Roland Zeus be for real?

How would this compare to the new Korg?

LOOK AT ALL THOSE KNOBS AND SLIDERS!!!

Is it one of HC's fakes?

-AlexHall74

Merlot 08.01.2005 04:57 AM

Link is not working here. I am curious though.

3o3 08.01.2005 05:25 AM

The link is dead, damn shame i did also wanna see what the new Roland looks like (or well the first homemade pictures ala HC)

AlexHall74 08.01.2005 12:51 PM

Try this for the article and pic:

http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultim...;f=18;t=012656

I tried to upload it and I guess it is too big.

Cheers!

-AlexHall74

Tomer=Trance 08.01.2005 01:34 PM

its a fake....
its was made from a jup picture....

AlexHall74 08.01.2005 02:10 PM

It had to be!

What is jup?

-AlexHall74


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