8O Well first post on this forum but there are some statements in this thread I don't understand :?

PowerCore Element costs $499
Virus PowerCore costs $399

So for the price of $898 you're be able to pickup not only a Virus but also some really nice plugins for your DAW, the ClassicVerb alone is worth that (at least to my ears) :wink:

You are able to get an all digital Virus with firewire for less than $2000-$2700, just get yourself a PowerCore Firewire and the Virus PowerCore plug-in and wait for what the cost of the full license will be, and you're set :wink: (albeit you'll have to use a controller for the knobs :) )

Just my .02 cents...

PowerCore Element costs $499
whats that?
a version with less dsp parts?

It's a PowerCore PCI minus the master X3

Comparison chart just uploaded at TC's site ;)
http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=2881

and Before anyone asks "What's a Master X3 ?"
Here's a Master X3:



What does it do?

It's basically a Finalizer
Here are it's features.
3-Band processing with adjustable crossovers
Expander
Compressor
Limiter
Dithering (uncorrelated)
Look-Ahead feature of up to 10 msAdjustable Digital Ceiling with accuracy of up to 0.05 dB
Hi-Res Metering with selectable Hold ModesConsecutive Clippings counter2 per DSP in 48 kHz

Asa I said Before I like the PowerCore and It's functionality but I still believe it's a Money Eater.

i think you can do without it
im thinking about selling my virus and geting a powercore elements
the price is realy cheap

Just be advised,,

the powercore element has less on-board memory and slower chips than the firewire poco. Therefore, my guess is that upcoming plugs might not support the powercore element. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this..

Just replaced one of my virus c's with a firewire poco with the virus on it. Can't wait 'til I get it! Hopefully I can get a price for the multi-dsp license soon..
:D

the powercore firewire is 2000+ $
and that too pricey for me
with the price of the elements and the virus togther i wont have to add money to buy it after i will sell my rack
the elements has the same ram amount and prossesor power and amount
i still got to find out some more stuff about it befor making my move

Hi Tomer,

Funny, in the US, the poco firewire is $1499.. and you are wrong about the processor speeds and ram. True, they both carry 4 motorola DSP's and a Power PC processor, but the amount of memory for each processor is 4 times bigger on the firewire version. In addition, the motorola chips run at 150mhz as compared to 100 mhz for the powercore PCI. Plus, the Power PC runs at 266 mhz in comparison to 200 mhz. Check out the comparison chart at www.tcelectronic.com.

However, the element goes for around $499 so it's really a bargain if you will only use it to run the virus on! And since (from what I've heard) the powercore firewire has approx. twice the processing power as the element, it is three times more expensive so the powercore element is more value for your money.

For me, however, PCI-slots are rare since I am running a Creamware Powerpulsar and a Pulsar II soundcard that already occupy two slots.. therefore I chose the firewire version.

I chose the powercore virus in favor of the virus c for it's excellent patch management system. It is also easier to swap between projects if the amount of hardware synths is reduced to a minimum. I only run software apart from the virus, JV 2080, MS2000r and a triton..

Good luck,
Micke

well yeah i know there is big difference between the amount of prossesing power on the firewire and the pci cards
in my post i meant the there is not different between the elements and the other pci card with the 3x is the same...
accualy im thinking of geting a pulser2 second hand in the future and at the same time replace it with my corrent sound card (audiophile) and get a very nice powerful dsp platform and a good sound card at the same time.
anyway thanx for the help got to look for the suplyer and find out the exact price here.

confused
 

I don't understand what you mean. I have a Virus KB and am thining about going Powercore path and selling my KB so I don't have to deal with outboard issues and rembering patches etc.

Ok so the Virus PC comes with 16 voices. Does that mean polyphony?
somebody here mentinoed that if you use a big string or pad patch you could use all your voices? That blows! I am also confused by the whole muliti DSP thing?

What would I need to use the Virus Powercore on 4 different Cubase SX2 tracks playing different patches (sounds) with FX). And not worrying about using that patch that uses all my voices.

also does anyone know of any latency issues and how many arp patterns it comes with?
thanks