and last i checked i was producing music for dancefloors.
not for some jo blogg with a boombox
and the only thing that burst my buble was the limitation
of the total intergration.
sorry to say it.but its true.
if you love it im happy for you.It is a beast
but it isnt all it claims..but of course they use the perfect wording
hell i thought the thing was gonna be capable of freakin 192!!!
i thought this is great i can try that out.

the slicker your sound tha better.
and it has been my experiance(and plenty of others)that i can achieve a better sound mixing @ 24/96.
theres really should be real no argument there.

Nut....

In principle i dont disagree with you....im always out for good recordings...but until SACD is embraced by the buying public then the benfits of higher rates will always be curtailed. I would love the virus ti to ultimately run at 24/192 through Mlan....but we're some ways off that....

But remember.....most synths internal engines run at 24/44 the nord 2x being the exception (which runs at 24/96)...and you have to use analog outs. So why cant you use the Virus TI's 24/192 internal engine through the analog outs? Yes, perhaps you need an audio interface with 8 ins and outs...

DS

well thats the point with the ti i thought i wouldnt have to buy an additional
io because mine only has 1 analog in/out and 16 digital.

and you miss the point.
i dont care if the soundsource is 16/44
it is the mixing and digital summing i want in 24/96

but if you want to use the total intergration
you are forced to work @ 16/44

funny noone has even confirmed that it isnt or is possible

i want to load my host and set its mixing and recording rate to
24/96.
i then want to use the total intergration to stream 4 streams into
the computer.
is it possible?

Ok, but what benefit is there of recording something at 24/96 when its source is 'only' 16/44?

As a hifi analogy....thats like using a ?2000 amplifier on a ?200 CD player. Since the CD player is the most fundemental component of any hifi (it reads the data from the disk...and information lost at this stage cannot be recovered later on down the chain i.e. amplifier/speakers) it makes sense to have more money invested in a pristine CD player and a lesser amplifier.

Im just trying to logically understand why you place so much emphasis on 24/96 recordings when your sources are less than this (particualrly digital sources)

As a side note...if you were recording using analog synths...then id agree with you....but we're talking about digital synths arent we?

Help me understand....

DS

man.....
why do i have to explain to you what anyone with a bit of knowledge in digital recording already knows.
goggle it or go to school or something.there is plenty of information
about the advantages of recording and mixing @ higher rates.
even if the source material and end medium is lower
plenty of it ...
im glad it sparked your interest.

Nut...

I still cant figure out why you dont just use the analogue outs??? I know your soundcard only has stereo In, but is this in use ALL the time???? Cant you just get a small patch bay, and patch in the Virus Ti when you have finished with your MIDI parts and ready to bounce to audio?????? And then patch back in whatever is using it up all the time.

Surely that is not a hassle. Then you get to work in 24/96.

yes unfortunatly it is most all the time in use.
this is why i thought the TI was going to be just what i needed
i wouldnt have to fuss around with another i/o
it is an i/o

unfortunatly it is a weak i/o :(

and the argument that cd are just 16 bit anyway holds little relavence these days
because current dithering algorythms allow for cd audio signals
on par with 20bit or greater.

So how about buying a patch bay???? I know this is not the answer you are looking for, but it is a way that you can continue to work in 24/96 and use the new Virus!

Edit: How come the Inputs are in use ALL the time??? Is it because you have no external mixer????

i have been using a smallish dj mixer
for just master volume control
lately i have been mixing 100% internal

the analog input is always being used to feed my computer my
turntables.

i could get a patch bay..
but this isnt why i was purchasing the ti
it was because i thought i could just plug the usb cable in
and have the audio routed right into my host.
this made it very attractive to a person with a lack of
analog inputs.
i could mix outboard,i could get a patchbay,i could buy an additional i/o
but i though it was supposed to intergrate.

no big deal i have no vendetta against access
it is a huge sounding synth

but to try and downplay the problem that you are forced to set your host
at 16/44 to use the "total intergration" is silly
its named after it for christ sake

and to try and make me out to be some kind of fringe type of user
is also silly.
plenty of others will be disapointed by this.