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marc 17.02.2004 11:20 PM

Re: VIRUS powercore at NAMM 2004
 
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Originally Posted by Royal Tee
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Originally Posted by r3dnaX
"A Multi DSP License can be obtained on top of the Base Package which allows the Virus to be instanced on all PowerCore DSPs simultaneously.

Did anyone notice that you have to pay more for a "DSP license" to use it to it's full potential.
WTF is that?
Every VST that I use can be used as many times as your CPU can handle.
I see the fate of this coming real soon.
Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
It makes no Sense :roll:

i can see where you're coming from. but you need to take a look at it from a different angle:

access is a company out for feeding their employees and make some money to grow. i guess that's kind of understandable.

the licensing scheme allows us to offer people a smaler version without restricting the feature set (which has been done a lot in the past). sure, this is kind of new to the plug-in world but we believe it's a really fair way of letting people choose and therefore scale their system to their needs.

>Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
>It makes no Sense :roll:

check out the powercore (http://http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCore). this is a DSP afterburner for you computer, it actually takes the load _off_ your computer)


marc

Tomer=Trance 18.02.2004 05:13 AM

so they give users on a low budget a chance to get the basic virus
i agree the price is reasonable

Royal Tee 18.02.2004 06:46 PM

Re: VIRUS powercore at NAMM 2004
 
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Originally Posted by marc
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Originally Posted by Royal Tee
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Originally Posted by r3dnaX
"A Multi DSP License can be obtained on top of the Base Package which allows the Virus to be instanced on all PowerCore DSPs simultaneously.

Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
It makes no Sense :roll:

i can see where you're coming from. but you need to take a look at it from a different angle:

access is a company out for feeding their employees and make some money to grow. i guess that's kind of understandable.

the licensing scheme allows us to offer people a smaler version without restricting the feature set (which has been done a lot in the past). sure, this is kind of new to the plug-in world but we believe it's a really fair way of letting people choose and therefore scale their system to their needs.

>Especially with alot of users just using an old PC for their VST's.
>It makes no Sense :roll:
check out the powercore (http://http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCore). this is a DSP afterburner for you computer, it actually takes the load _off_ your computer)
marc

Marc, I'm pretty familiar with the unit so I Know what is and exactly what it does. :wink:
My point is that people would rather use their old PC as a VST/DSP Machine and save a few bux as opposed buying a "DSP Afterburner" :roll: for $1300,
Then having to Buy more Plug-ins for $300 bux a pop,
Then having to buy a More Expensive License to Use the Plug-in that you already paid for to It's full potential.
IOW.
I'd Rather use a VST System Link or any one of the New Music Networking Devices on my Old PC and use it just for VST's.

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Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance
so they give users on a low budget a chance to get the basic virus
i agree the price is reasonable

That's If you Consider Spending $1300 for the Unit then another $XXX for the Virus then More $$$ if you want the full license
Reasonable 8O

ben crosland 18.02.2004 07:27 PM

Re: VIRUS powercore at NAMM 2004
 
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Originally Posted by "Royal Tee
My point is that people would rather use their old PC as a VST/DSP Machine and save a few bux as opposed buying a "DSP Afterburner" :roll: for $1300,
Then having to Buy more Plug-ins for $300 bux a pop,
Then having to buy a More Expensive License to Use the Plug-in that you already paid for to It's full potential.

I don't think that your suggestion is so obvious a solution as to apply to everyone - I would certainly prefer not to use 2 PCs.

You are also forgetting an important point - a lot of people already own the PowerCore! For these people, the price of the Virus plugin makes a lot of sense. Whether or not people will buy the PowerCore purely to get the Virus remains to be seen.

As for your perspective on the license system - I take it you're a 'glass is half empty' kind of guy, huh? :wink:

Royal Tee 18.02.2004 07:43 PM

Re: VIRUS powercore at NAMM 2004
 
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Originally Posted by ben crosland
As for your perspective on the license system - I take it you're a 'glass is half empty' kind of guy, huh? :wink:

What F*#@* Glass !!!! Jerked again! :x Aaaarggghhh!

If they already own it Then Hells Yeah, Go for it!! Stupid not to.
After Re-Doing my Studio (Below) and spending lotsa $$$ on it, I just like to weigh out my Options. I actually Considered the Powercore until I researched and came to the conclusiion that it was a Stomach-less money eater. Now Where's My Damn Water!! :wink:
>> Click Here for my Studio Specs <<

ben crosland 18.02.2004 07:53 PM

Nice studio!

As for the PowerCore, I think that the addition of the Virus will give it a lot more credibility, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it encourages other manufacturers to develop for it. FWIW I'm *very* impressed with the plugs that are bundled with the PowerCore.

Timo 19.02.2004 10:46 AM

Nice studio RT. :) Do you get much use out of your MC303?

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Now, back on topic... When are we going to have another outbreak? (Virus D) !! :D

Tomer=Trance 19.02.2004 02:21 PM

i would rather see a Virus M (for Modular)

Timo 24.02.2004 11:51 AM

Dya reckon they'll release owt at Frankfurt? Dunno how long I can hold off waiting for their next synth! Might buy me a Virus B in the meantime. :)

Royal Tee 24.02.2004 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo
Nice studio RT. :) Do you get much use out of your MC303?.

Thanx, Funny you should ask.
I'm waiting for My "C" to get here so I can connect em both. The 303 has been neglected since re-building the Royal Palace.

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Originally Posted by Timo
Now, back on topic... When are we going to have another outbreak? (Virus D) !! :D

I was hoping to hear of a new Virus with a USB/Firewire port, a Smart Media card slot and an ADAT/Toslink out so you can go 8 channels in digitally to the PC but I think that's to much to ask. :roll:

Actually, They should release a normal updated Virus and Call it the Virus-D then add all the Digital features and call it the Virus-Digital. If they Built one and Sold it for $2000-$2700 I'd get one in a heartbeat.

I think alot of manufacturers should be more conscious and adapt/create/configure their products to todays technoligies. :wink:


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