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Joey 16.01.2009 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcinsu (Post 285565)
so does

"Use the Characters section to apply subtle changes to sound of the filters, the oscillators, and the character
of the nonlinearities and distortions throughout the instrument."

mean that this isnt an "effect" like you put in the signal chain... but more of a under the hood tweaking of the fundamental synth engine?

yes it does exactly that, but I kind of can't be bothered using it, and it doesnt say what each one does, even in the demo video Ben Crosland is just like "They can make it emulate the sound of famous analog synths"

well, which ones!?

lapd02 16.01.2009 07:39 PM

Availability?
 
When will the new hardware be available?? :D

oblivion 16.01.2009 07:41 PM

Shortly after NAMM

Monobeat 16.01.2009 10:27 PM

I could see using all the new DSP power. In songs that are mostly TI, I often hit the wall with polyphony.

Here's the catch...

It's that wall that keeps me in check and tells me. "Hey Andrew, chill out..." Then I go.... "Oh yeah... " The world of TI polyphony has made me lavish all my music in sonic possiblity, and pay less attention to all the silence that makes dance music pop. I think the TI has the perfect amount of voices...

I am happy oh so happy with this OS, the TI, and my current state of music mind.

DigitAl56K 17.01.2009 07:07 AM

Marc, Just wanted to drop a note to thank you guys for opening up OS 3 to the TI range! I just bought a TI Keyboard recently and I would have hated to have had to trade it in already! Big thumbs up here. I like supporting companies that support their users in return :)

flipside 17.01.2009 09:11 AM

Looking and working very good so far here! Yeah!

Alex

Natspace 17.01.2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc (Post 285474)

the TI is in for the long run, in other words - there will be updates to the entire series as long as it is technically feasible.

best regards,

marc

That a great news for my Snow, thank Marc ;)

Cantankerous 17.01.2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc (Post 285474)
a public beta is available as of now.

here's a couple of things i'd like to mention: OS3 is available for the entire Ti series including the snow. we could have easy limited it to the new TI but we didn't for a simple reason. it's really old fashion and not beneficial for anybody (including us). so treat it as a gift :)

the TI is in for the long run, in other words - there will be updates to the entire series as long as it is technically feasible.

best regards,

marc

ps. our entire support team is on the NAMM. please understand that there might be increased turnaround times for the ticket for the next couple of days.

I can't thank you guys enough for not abandoning us early adopters of the Virus Ti lineup. I was actually quite sad when I heard of the Ti2 being released as I only just bought my Ti about 6 months ago now. When I read that the new OS3 was available for the older units too I was very, very surprised and extremely happy to boot. Just reading of the new features made me want the Ti2. Now I get those features without having to worry about shelling out for a whole new unit. In these economic times, not many can do such a thing.

Thanks again and keep up the great work. I look very, very forward to receiving any new updates you guys can offer. Access support really is as good as I heard it was before I even bought my unit.

00264167 17.01.2009 08:10 PM

I wish they would let you reset a knob back to zero by double clicking on it.
in version2 i always find it fiddley in vc moving the knobs small amounts but it seems alot better in version3.

IamEvil 17.01.2009 08:18 PM

@ Marc , if he reads this.....

Any chance of implementing a shift toggle somewhere ?

Playing while trying to adjust a parameter while holding shift is getting a bit complex :)

zeno 17.01.2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h4nc0 (Post 285452)
I hope that it's 64bit compatible.

64bit would be a WIN.

sawtooth 17.01.2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo (Post 285485)
So, the only hardware difference between the TI and TI2 is 1.25x the DSP (25% additional poly)?

No additional controllers (ribbon-controller/XY-pad/joystick), no high-speed USB2/firewire, no step/mod-seq, no customisable waveforms, no new oscillators, no additional filters...

If the DSP alone had followed Moore's Law, it'd be 4x the DSP [400% poly] of the original TI mk1).

Bit disappointing after five years. =/

I think the real update is the OS. I think the hardware is more of like when they put out a new smaller model of the playstation 2 when the components are made smaller, etc. - maybe kind of a mkII. One of the main features of this ti2 is that it is a lot lighter. My TI P0lar is pretty heavy so that's kind of cool, I guess. I'm very happy that my TI P0lar is not obsolete and will still be supported and updated. I'm also very happy about the OS - it Rules!

D*2 19.01.2009 08:16 AM

I just bought my TI like about a month ago!!
So happy its not ganna be obsolete instantly

mitchiemasha 19.01.2009 06:37 PM

think we all need to say a big thank you to access.

they could of turned there back on previous buyers. I have never known a company to do this. bug fixes, yes but this is a hole new toy.

looks like for all of us who choose a ti, over other synths, have made the right choice. all those hard saved pounds were well spent.

thank you.

they release a new model but yet us with the old 1 get it for free. kind of... they could of charged for this upgrade like a software product would.

sorry but am jst realy happy i bought a virus ti. had mine for some time and it jst keeps getting better. as i learn the more it can do.

markorbit 19.01.2009 08:09 PM

Just stopping by to say a HUGE thanks to the Access team for what looks like a great update. I only installed yesterday so haven't yet tried all the new stuff but had to drop by and congratulate the great folks at Access.

acidduck 21.01.2009 04:09 AM

I can't thank Access enough.

I remember years ago trying to make a decision on which piece of kit to buy as my new main studio synth. I am so glad I brought a Virus TI. No other piece of hardware I know of has received so many excellent FREE updates.

When I heard of the Virus TI mkII range, I thought it meant the end of support for my TI keyboard (and realistically, after continual firmware updates with superb added features for years now, this would not have surprised me). The fact that Access are releasing this update to existing owners shows that they truly are dedicated to their users.

It's funny that I initially hesitated about buying my Virus. If I knew back then of all the features that would be added over time, my decision would have been easy - the Virus was without the slightest of doubt the smartest purchase I think I've ever made.

Thanks so much Access... the features you keep adding are brilliant, and thus my Virus remains my most loved piece of studio kit!

I'm looking forward to installing this new OS soon...

00264167 21.01.2009 09:25 PM

is there a way to get all the new (i assume most of them are new) 't12 factory backup' presets in to the search categories?

ive put all the ti2 banks in my patches folder and it sees and uses them all ok but i dont think theyre being included in the search categories.

marc 21.01.2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cYrus (Post 285487)
firs bug found here: the EQs doesn't work through VC here. when i use the virus itself to adjust the eq they work as expected.

which EQ band specifically?

marc

marc 21.01.2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamEvil (Post 285492)
It's not a Ti V2 though , it's just a hardware revision/update...

they've sorted bascially everything they said they would with the Ti so far and added more shit than I know what to do with.

the 25% extra may not actually be extra DSP . it may be down to just better coding of the OS

Marc -- what's the score on the extra DSP power ?

guys,

we did a partial redesign of the motherboard to allow for more DSP power. as for "It's not a Ti V2 though" i don't think there would be a more moderate way to indicate the revision, especially as the "2" is not even a part of the name on the synth itselves.

best, marc

marc 21.01.2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totty (Post 285503)
I saw that on the site, it may be a typo, or maybe not!!

it is in the pdf brochure and a copy/paste error. the snow still has the same about of voices. it wasn't newly introduced and upgraded anyway.

best, marc

marc 21.01.2009 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamEvil (Post 285513)
Soundsets are the original Ti soundsets, I was expecting a new bank or 26 too but theres nothing new here.

the TI2 will have a new soundset. TI1 user can listen to it by navigating virus control to the "backup" of the new set within the patches folder.

best, marc

marc 21.01.2009 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcinsu (Post 285557)
also... atomizer doesnt seem to be delay compensated, when using the USB input.

A good 16th note or so off beat

that's your host (logic e.g.) , not the virus. i've commented on that elsewhere

best, marc

marc 21.01.2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00264167 (Post 285704)
I wish they would let you reset a knob back to zero by double clicking on it.
in version2 i always find it fiddley in vc moving the knobs small amounts but it seems alot better in version3.

two things: the knobs behave the same in the old and new version. resetting to zero is not possible but for the value used in the original patch. just cmd-click on the knob. TI2 backup banks on your disc show up in the search results.

best, marc

Splat! 22.01.2009 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc (Post 285969)
the TI2 will have a new soundset. TI1 user can listen to it by navigating virus control to the "backup" of the new set within the patches folder.

Is the new soundset already included or will it be available later? I didn't quite get it.
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Crossfire 22.01.2009 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo (Post 285500)
The confusion with USB v2.0 is that there are three types of USB v2.0 chipsets (for different speeds). Low Speed (1.5Mbps), Full Speed (12Mbps), and High Speed (480Mbps).

All the TIs have the mid-range "FullSpeed" USB v2.0 chipset @ 12Mbps, which is incidently the fastest that USB v1.1 can achieve. Hence the confusion.

Thanks for clearing this up!

So if the TI has the Full Speed chipset does this mean it can never be upgraded to a High Speed speed through a software/firmware update?

I wonder which chipset the TI2 has...

emdebee 22.01.2009 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splat! (Post 285985)
Is the new soundset already included or will it be available later? I didn't quite get it.

It's available via the browser in Virus Control v3. Look in the Public Libraries section, under Virus TI2 Factory Backup... hope this helps?

Totty 22.01.2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcinsu (Post 285563)
1. what do they mean by "Last but not least, a modification to the main "VCA" algorithm enables OS3 users to design gating FX known from electro and minimal influenced music.

I haven't figured that one out yet.

2. I just read in the addendum that some hosts will have the delay, and there is nothing they can do about it, which makes me sad :(



You can use the patch volume as a destination in the mod matrix, this now happens after the effects so you can chop the reverb trails etc on off in a trippy kinda way:)

L.F. 22.01.2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc (Post 285968)
it is in the pdf brochure and a copy/paste error. the snow still has the same about of voices. it wasn't newly introduced and upgraded anyway.

best, marc

That would have been a bit much anyway.. "you had 2 dsp chips all along. surprise!" :D

As far a the upgade is concerned, nothing but words of praise to all of you at Access music. The Ti sets a new bar for value. One I don't see any other manuracturer catching up to any time soon... I just wish others would finally learn from you and give us more VST compatable synths. :rolleyes:
No bugs so far in v3. Seems to be working great in cubase.

Still wondering about 64bit version? Is this included/planned? Cubase 5 is gonna be 64bit so...

phasesync 23.05.2009 02:55 PM

finaly bought the TI2 :o)
 
Hi there,

I'm a total newbie with Access and finally decided to buy a TI2 desktop and did so last week. After reading the quickstart manual, steinberg cubase and the reference tutorial and tweeking knobs I have a feeling there is a steep trial/error learning curve ahead for me. Maybe it is the lack of documentation or I'm just not smart enough! :confused:

If someone could tell me where to find more detailed (dummy) information with pictures and stuff I would be very happy.

Cheers,
Joel


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