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pseudonym 09.05.2005 02:23 PM

Gopal,


wow...

I'm pretty intrigued by Juno Reactor... Not sure I like it yet, but it is certainly full of culture like you say.

I really enjoyed their score for the Matrix Reloaded...

Cheers man, will let you know how I get on with it.


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No way!!! Unpredictable melodies in Trance??? What a _novel_ idea!

ten 09.05.2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pseudonym
All meant in jest of course. It's just my style to completely ridicule some else's ideas of right and wrong ;)

Its not a question of right or wrong, you just obviously have shit taste ;)

ten

pseudonym 09.05.2005 02:53 PM

lol

Seeyou 09.05.2005 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MADSTATION
Seeyou: Just had a look @ the prices and the Aphex 250 is listed at 899$ USD, a bit over my range for an exciter. Is there any cheaper alternative for similar results? Worst comes to worst I'll make sure to rent one and if I really like it, I might just buy it :)

Yes. I would either suggest the 250 or the 204. I got mine for 140 Euros from E-bay (Germany). People don't really know what these things do or how they work so nobody is really interested. And there are a number of other patents regarding exciting, from manufacturers like BBE, SPL, Behringer and other, but they are really not that good. BBE uses a technology that has to do with phase shifting/inverting that doesn't really do the thing, because mids are excited too. SPL's Vitalizer enhances highs and lows. The highs are just EQed (could use an EQ instead) but the processing in the lows sound AMAZING. If someone needs a lows processor, SPL Vitalizer MKII rules! Behringer tries to offer something like aphex but it is just a cheap imitation (it's ok for the stereo in the bathroom :lol: ) . Aphex uses the best patent. The sound of the input gets *analogly* overdriven (distorted). Then, the highs (particularly the 3rd harmonic of the distorted sound) are filtered out of the distorted signal, processed and added back to the original input signal. This produces crystal clear higs, practically from nothing! The output signal doesn't sound distorted at all, in fact you get to hear highs that weren't there before the process! Hope you find this information interesting! And ... sorry about my english, it has in deed become a bit rusty :oops:

MADSTATION 09.05.2005 07:32 PM

Seeyou:
No worries ;)
I usually speak french so I understand how it feels heh

Thanks a lot for the great info...I'll try to find a 250 off ebay!
Is there any sites where I can listen to clips before/after being processed?
That would rock!

Thanks

Seeyou 09.05.2005 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MADSTATION
Seeyou:

Is there any sites where I can listen to clips before/after being processed?
That would rock!

Thanks

You could send me something to apterus@gmail.com,
preferrably something of your own, something that you know 100% how it sounds, I can process it and send it back to you. Try sending it in .aac / 192 or .wma / 192!

MADSTATION 09.05.2005 08:26 PM

Great! That's very nice from you.

Email sent!

DIGITAL SCREAMS 09.05.2005 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pseudonym
Well, it is...

"...look, this is how Trance goes like... Look, I'm making Trance, and it sounds like Trance, it has a hard beat man, totally tumping, and then after a while this uplifting lead comes in, starting all muffled and filtered, like the real passion about to take off is being suppressed by an unknown force, but then this force lifts, and the passion flows through the dance floor like a spirit, a spirit of pure techno and musical harmony and melody ..."

The only spirit involved in this music is the sticky vodka being spilt on the floor as the drunken twats who know no better than to dance to this mindless absurdity fall over eachother to 'go off'.

All meant in jest of course. It's just my style to completely ridicule some else's ideas of right and wrong ;)

Excellant :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

DS :P

Seeyou 09.05.2005 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MADSTATION
Great! That's very nice from you.

Email sent!

Wow! very good work there!
The secret is not to apply the exciter to the whole mix because all the high-hats will be excited too and maybe you don't want that.If I apply the exciter to the whole mix, then the difference will not be that surprising. You get the most out of the exciter when you process one or two instruments in a mix and then compare it to the same mix, before using the exciter. (does the sentence make any sense??? 8O ).
Anyway, it got a bit late so I promise you will get the e-mail within 2 days max. If you can, send me a separate audio channel from one of your tracks for me to process (preferrably a virus!!!!) and see how the whole mix changes!!!

Timo 10.05.2005 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeyou
Quote:

Originally Posted by MADSTATION
Great! That's very nice from you.

Email sent!

Wow! very good work there!

Post it! Post it! I love hearing audio demos of gear processing.

Panioptic still never sent me the Distressor demo. :(

Seeyou 10.05.2005 11:36 PM

Madstation: Demo sent!
Hope you enjoy it! But, as I said, maybe you will only apreciate the thing if you use it during mixing yourself. Anyway, if the demo helps you, I am truly glad! :lol:

DIGITAL SCREAMS 01.09.2005 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pseudonym
My God, look it's 2005 for **** sake, that whole concept is dead and rotting. Make something new, with new sounds.

The trance and techno community have difficulty with this concept.

DS :lol:

ten 01.09.2005 11:10 AM

Says the guy obsessed with the 80s ;)

ten

K.E.M. 04.09.2005 05:29 AM

Wow..I had no idea my topic generated this much attention!. Lol

Well the conversation is starting to swerve off, but let me tell you my adventures since I've last posted.

I purchased the SH-32 and found that I probably won't be buying the MS2K for awhile, but I'll probably end up getting a JP8***, rack or keyboard, dunno yet. The Virus is too expensive for me, and I found that it isn't the same in character as the Virus, and while the Virus is very powerful and it's sound is technically evil and cool sounding, I don't see myself with a Virus, I see myself with a JP...maybe because I previosuly owned it before, and I've grown attached to it. Lol.

But otherwise...the SH-32 still kicks my ass, big time. I plan on using in it a guitar synth setup one of these days, because it kicks that much ass that I can go Amir Derakh on it. =D

It basically relies on built-in samples as waveforms, and from there it runs as a VA, so you're able to control all of the sounds as if it were a VA. It's very thick and warm sounding too, in my opinion.

Overall, my setup so far is:
-Korg Triton LE Workstation
-Korg DS-8 FM Synth
-Roland SH-32 "Quasi VA" Synth

I do plan on a Roland JP8 of some sort before the end of the year, as well as a kick ass production computer. =)

So yeah, I guess that's it for now...but I'll still be coming to the board, because while I wouldn't purchase the hardware version of the Virus, I would love to see myself with the Powercore, because that could help me make some ripping experimental tracks and stuff. =)

vvanrij 07.09.2005 08:53 AM

Ya I have a SH32 too, a good tip to get best sounds:

Go to performance mode
Set all patches to D88 (thats the init patch)
All osc's set to Wave Saw 12 (supersaw)
Now put the fine tunes as follow:

Part 1 Osc 1 Second line up
Part 1 Osc 2 Fourth line up
pan Part 1 to the FULL LEFT

Part 2 Osc 1 Second line down
Part 2 Osc 2 Fourth line down
pan Part 2 to the FULL RIGHT

Part 3 Osc 1 Second line up - 1 Octave down
Part 3 Osc 2 Fourth line up - 1 Octave down
pan Part 3 to the FULL LEFT

Part 4 Osc 1 Second line down - 1 Octave down
Part 4 Osc 2 Fourth line down - 1 Octave down
pan Part 4 to the FULL RIGHT

Hehehe, now just add some little reverb and delay, and you will be surprised :P (all resonance about 30-60. for the slight hiss)


Ya, it sometimes even beats my 8080 :D

-VR


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