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Wandering Kid 11.01.2005 08:09 AM

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my point is basically that i think it is poor form on access' behalf to announce and then no info for two months - not even an update.
im not so sure. its a cut throat business and ive seen alot of well known companies capitalising on the loyalty of its customer base at the expense of a couple thousand pissed off people up until its eventual launch. valve did this on half life 2 for instance only everyone had to wait 14 months instead of 3. needless to say, that didnt stop people pre ordering it months in advance of release, and it didnt stop it selling millions. it didnt stop people from never buying valve products again, which is what everyone would have to have done to effectively protest against this kind of marketing. as evidenced by the fact that half the people here pre ordered the virus TI on the strength of access's claims as to the machine's capabilities? well that just shows that access really had little to lose by doing this. and to be frank, i dont blame them with competition like roland and korg seemingly forging away at their next digital masterpeices.

its all well and good saying its poor form on access, but this type of company behavior is pretty much the norm if the stakes are high, and if they make as much money as they do from an as yet non existant, non functional product, then good job access - i like the way their brand name has so much weight to it - its more pressure on them to not fuck it up when the TI eventually does launch.

EDIT: hollowcell - i cant believe you staked your mother's life on the authenticity of that indigo 3 8O you must not value your mother's life that much seeing as blank/jasedee saw through it instantly. *grin* you should definitely try to photoshop a virus modular or a nord lead 4. get some more people whipped up into a frenzy. *grin*

Timo 13.01.2005 12:29 AM

0day, 0day....
 
OMG, it's an absolute monster!

Korg OASYS it definately is. And it's a Triton crusher at the same time. With KARMA technology.

With a 511mb, 4-velocity layered Concert Grand piano, too...

A mutha f'in behemoth.

blay 13.01.2005 11:48 AM

hmmm thanks for the heads up timo...

everyone's complaining about the projected price tag of this monster - but if you weigh up those features on paper against the TI, have we found a product which gives you better bang for your buck?

i wonder how many people will start reconsidering their TI purchases now? (especially if korg starts shipping from the 20th Jan...)

cheers

blay

DIGITAL SCREAMS 13.01.2005 01:02 PM

This new Korg would appear to be your all-in-one synth solution. OASYS, VA, WAVETABLE and VS.

Very tempting.....however, there are two contraints. We dont know what the UI is like and we dont know its real Cost. Havign said that.....hats off to Korg for finally develping the OASYS concept fully. Its been like 11 years in the making.

DS

Timo 13.01.2005 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blay
i wonder how many people will start reconsidering their TI purchases now? (especially if korg starts shipping from the 20th Jan...)

Yep, me for one. I loved Korg's Trinity and Moss, including the touchsreen interface - VERY intuitive - which is why I've been grumbling ever since about the Virus' GUI (albeit Indigo v1), it's dreadful.

Damn, I really wished Korg were going to do a 61-note version, though. The price might be just too much for me, in its current form. $7K USD (?3270 GBP, or 5300 Euros) being the rumoured RRP price for the 88-note version (the street price will be cheaper, I'll bet, as will the 71-note version). If the 71-note version ever goes as low as ?2K street price, I'll be looking into getting that as opposed to a Polar TI.

Roll on Namm!

blay 13.01.2005 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo
Roll on Namm!

yep i for one would love to be there when it all starts - perhaps korg and access can get booths across from each other and talk trash to each other all week :lol:

"my mamas synth is fatter than yo mamas"

Hollowcell 17.01.2005 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blay
HC hopes so :wink: :lol:

i think access will get it close to right first time round.

Hehehe, just decided to read these Korg threads and found this gem! Honestly, I really hope Access doesn't have a buggy OS, because the amount of "help me" threads is bound to increase! :cry:

Realisticly though I am guessing there will be bugs. With something this complicated, containing many variables when running in a VSTi realm - they can't test every possible config - can they?. Look at Sounddiver.

Now about this Korg thing. Comparing it to the TI is really strange. Very different machines indeed. I doubt very much the Korg VA will match the TI's VA - having said that though I still like the sound of the MS2000. I just think they will be too different to compare really. Have to wait and see.

It's gunna be a cool Namm this year! Really new stuff hitting the market. Not just the same old VA gear this year. :D Can't wait.

Hollowcell 17.01.2005 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wandering Kid

EDIT: hollowcell - i cant believe you staked your mother's life on the authenticity of that indigo 3 8O you must not value your mother's life that much seeing as blank/jasedee saw through it instantly. *grin* you should definitely try to photoshop a virus modular or a nord lead 4. get some more people whipped up into a frenzy. *grin*

No, I gambled her life against the fact that it wasn't a Photoshop creation. I made it in Photo impression4. I love me mum. :wink:

Timo 20.01.2005 03:47 PM


Juho L 20.01.2005 03:49 PM

Looks nice. I want to know the price. That thing could save Korg from certain doom if they don't overprice it.

Merlot 20.01.2005 03:52 PM

looks nice, but i wish they would make one without a sequencer. That would defenitely lower the price, whatever it is.

Juho L 20.01.2005 03:54 PM

One hour to go.

3o3 20.01.2005 03:55 PM

Still looks pretty cool; clean design. and a 'wavestation'-joystick. ohh!

Timo 20.01.2005 03:55 PM

http://www.irishacts.com/forum/phpBB...=10032&start=0

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Hello mates. Got this from a friend who's a brand manager for Korg for a local dealer who's at the NAMM right now.

OASYS 76 and 88 keys.
-172 polophony
-616 mb PCM
- 267mb sample RAM upgradable up to 512 MB
- Linux platform OS
- Karma 2nd gen
-Vector synthesis
-10 cm pop-up color TFT touchscreen
-wave sequencing
-analog and FM modeling
-2 joysticks-
4- way velocity down to program level
-16 part multitimbral
- 16 track HD recorder
- 40Gb HD and USB interface for CDRW
-Optical I/O
- knob sliders touchpad(velocity sensitive)
-12 IFX, 2 master FX

.......and most importantly, estimate is 76@ $8k and 88@ $8.5K.
$8K. ... $8K?!!!!?? 8O Meh!

Juho L 20.01.2005 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo
$8K. ... $8K?!!!!?? 8O Meh!

I bet Yamaha will buy Korg... Of course after Korg has went bankrupt.

Merlot 20.01.2005 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Juho L
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Originally Posted by Timo
$8K. ... $8K?!!!!?? 8O Meh!

I bet Yamaha will buy Korg... Of course after Korg has went bankrupt.

Sounds like a plan to me. Myabe then they will drop the price on this beast.

Timo 20.01.2005 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlot
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Originally Posted by Juho L
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Originally Posted by Timo
$8K. ... $8K?!!!!?? 8O Meh!

I bet Yamaha will buy Korg... Of course after Korg has went bankrupt.

Sounds like a plan to me. Myabe then they will drop the price on this beast.

Yeah, hoping the street price will be a lot less. Even so, we'd have to wait a year or two for it to come down even more.

Polar and laptop for me, instead! :)

3o3 20.01.2005 04:20 PM

I'd wait some years before i'd buy that (if i ever buy it that is)

Juho L 20.01.2005 04:22 PM

That Korg pricing will definetly pull the company to bankrupcy. Kurzweil had difficulties selling their gear and this is even double the price... Gloomy future, I say.

For that 8000 dollars one oculd get insane computer with PoCo and UAD1 + loads of software that would make the Oasys sound like a joke.

Timo 20.01.2005 06:15 PM

[Korg.com - Love Embraces All] - 6.1mb MP3

[Korg.com - Teknosis] - 6.6mb MP3

[Harmony Central - Video] - For some reason I can't seem to link to the actual video itself, but the video link is on that page. - 30 minute long streaming RealMedia video

[Korg.com - Video] - WindowsMedia or RealMedia, and narrow or broadband.

Hollowcell 21.01.2005 04:47 AM

I'm at home, so I won't be DLing the vids just yet, but from what you guys are saying it's not sounding too promising. That disapointing?!

Does the video show anything other than PCM stuff?

For 8 grand there must be something to it!!! Surely!

Timo 21.01.2005 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
I'm at home, so I won't be DLing the vids just yet, but from what you guys are saying it's not sounding too promising. That disapointing?!

Does the video show anything other than PCM stuff?

For 8 grand there must be something to it!!! Surely!

I dunno.... The stuff that was showcased in the video was, shock horror, daytime TV stuff, again. Very disappointing. I actually think this was more to do with the demonstrator's choice of music, though..

The Teknosis demo was very good, though. Tight as anything, too. It obviously shows it's about how you personally use it. If I ever had access to an OASYS (not likely) I'd dump most of the PCM daytime-TV instrumental stuff (if possible) and import my own samples for warping. I think that would be where the OASYS would truly come unto a world of its own. The synthesis possibilities are vast.
The AL-1 analogue board, ... The demonstrator only showed one type of sound, so we didn't get to really hear its potential.

For $8K I was really, really expecting to be blown away. But unfortunately not, by a long shot. :roll: $8K could buy you a LOT, elsewhere, and still sound better.

Merlot 21.01.2005 04:16 PM

That guy in the video could play the keys though. he was pretty F%^&in good! 8O

Tomer=Trance 21.01.2005 08:38 PM

for 8 grand you can set up a whole 2nd hand studio.

Hollowcell 21.01.2005 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo
If I ever had access to an OASYS (not likely) I'd dump most of the PCM daytime-TV instrumental stuff (if possible) and import my own samples for warping. I think that would be where the OASYS would truly come unto a world of its own. The synthesis possibilities are vast.
The AL-1 analogue board, ... The demonstrator only showed one type of sound, so we didn't get to really hear its potential.

For $8K I was really, really expecting to be blown away. But unfortunately not, by a long shot. :roll: $8K could buy you a LOT, elsewhere, and still sound better.

I agree, dumping the PCM and starting again is what it's about - V-synth is a good example of that. Can't demo the thing with out taking your own samples into the store.

All I know (without reading in detail about the new Oasis) is that if it has the possibilities of the prototype Oasis in the 90s, depending on the user the thing will completely change.

But..........8 fucking grand! 8O Not a chance in my economic position - even if it was amazing.


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