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blay 27.01.2005 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ben crosland
I didn't aim this comment at anyone on this forum - I was specifically referring to some posts I'd read elsewhere which were saying that the demo sounded thin, and no different to the C etc.

It certainly shouldn't be considered as coming from Access themselves, as I am not an employee - I guess I might have shown a little more restraint, but hey ;)

thanks for clarifying this ben.
perhaps you could be a little more specific next time :wink:
...because i am sure here are many here who consider you a representative of access (hey - you demoed the thing) and perhaps your attitude should reflect this?

the TI sounds great nevertheless - i hope it makes it here by the end of march... :)

cheers

blay

Gopal 27.01.2005 03:16 AM

I just want to know how you get a job like that Ben!

blay 27.01.2005 03:23 AM

...maybe its just the sunglasses :wink:

Merlot 27.01.2005 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blay
...maybe its just the sunglasses :wink:

Or the accent :wink:

Hollowcell 27.01.2005 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlot
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Originally Posted by blay
...maybe its just the sunglasses :wink:

Or the accent :wink:

Or the baldness helps reflect the light dirrectly onto the synth in question. :D Hehehe.

Hey, put yourself into the public arena and you ask for it I say. :wink:

All in good fun though Ben - did I mention it was a nice demo?

harrystainer 27.01.2005 10:22 AM

What's wrong with his accent? :roll:

Timo 27.01.2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by harrystainer
What's wrong with his accent? :roll:

I dunno! That's how we all speak over here! :) (Apart from Landoners, scousers, brummies, geordies, etc., hehe)

DIGITAL SCREAMS 27.01.2005 02:45 PM

Anyone from South of England in here?

DS

MADSTATION 27.01.2005 02:45 PM

Once again, demo is fantastic! Glad there was no effects and it was showcasing the new features(as opposed as playing a few presets, which is, in my opinion, not what a demo is for..especially a video demo)

However, when Ben mentionned about VST effects...I don't really get it.
I mean, it was possible in the past(I used to have realtime vst effects on 3 stereo outputs on my kc)...Is there something that I don't get?

Timo 27.01.2005 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Anyone from South of England in here?

DS

Derbyshire, East Midlands here. ;)

Merlot 27.01.2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by harrystainer
What's wrong with his accent? :roll:

I was J/K. :roll: These damn internet forums. It is hard to convey how you meant something. :x

harrystainer 27.01.2005 05:28 PM

Merlot, I knew you were joking as the :wink: suggested. I meant my comment to convey a slight hint of sarcasm, so I see what you mean about not knowing how things are meant to be understood on the internet. Anyway who gives a shit about what his accent sounds like when its the Ti we're listening to. :D

marc 27.01.2005 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smag
Will the wavetable Osc make the Virus capable of "bright" sounds like the Microwave XT then? Is this brightness a characteristic of wavetable synthesis in general or the Microwave?

Also, will you be able to mix the Wavetable Osc with the Hypersaw?

this "bright" sound can easily be achieved using the build in EQs. the waldorf synths sound like they have a build in treble boost.

- marc

tranzash 27.01.2005 09:59 PM

Cheers :D

MADSTATION 28.01.2005 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MADSTATION
However, when Ben mentionned about VST effects...I don't really get it.
I mean, it was possible in the past(I used to have realtime vst effects on 3 stereo outputs on my kc)...Is there something that I don't get?

Anyone?

ten 28.01.2005 04:08 PM

What do you want to know mad station?

You will get 3 outputs (in the first release it seems) or tracks in your sequencer from the virus software. Here you can treat these like any other tracks, add insert effects, sends etc.

ten

grs 28.01.2005 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MADSTATION
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Originally Posted by MADSTATION
However, when Ben mentionned about VST effects...I don't really get it.
I mean, it was possible in the past(I used to have realtime vst effects on 3 stereo outputs on my kc)...Is there something that I don't get?

Anyone?

Just read the specs on access website - HINT, look for the section on USB and the TI stands for Total Intergration! :P

tranzash 15.03.2005 12:40 AM

Hey BC, Can we pan 4 saws to the left and pan 4 to the right with the hypersaw ? What else can we do with the hypersaw? I know that we could dial in 9 saws+subs and control the detune spread , Internal sync. Can we use a lfo to pitch up a few saws and pitch down few saws? Just curious :)

Wandering Kid 16.03.2005 01:09 AM

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Anyone from South of England in here?
yea, southampton here. propa suvvenerz we are.

Targon 16.03.2005 10:51 AM

cool new additions, the physical interface requires some major attention imo. The device will sorely need an X/Y pad, MORE spare knobs and an AUX envelope!!!!

This V!RUS is pretty expensive, it is fairly cheaply built, yet Access won't expand the physical front end to be more useful.... i don't get the 'bare essentials only' policy.

Timo 16.03.2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Targon
cool new additions, the physical interface requires some major attention imo. The device will sorely need an X/Y pad, MORE spare knobs and an AUX envelope!!!!

This V!RUS is pretty expensive, it is fairly cheaply built, yet Access won't expand the physical front end to be more useful.... i don't get the 'bare essentials only' policy.

I agree, utterly. Even a ribbon controller would've been fantastic.

DIGITAL SCREAMS 16.03.2005 04:36 PM

Im in no way putting words into Access's mouth, but im guessing the control layout is dictated by cost. Remember, with digital synths....the circuit board is located right below all the knobs and buttons. If you look at a Propet 5 or Jupiter 8....you will see the controls spread out cross the entire surface. Well, this is largly dictated by the fact theres alot of circuitry in there....

For Access to implement more knobs and a wider (less condensed) control surface....this would invariably incur cost. Now, I suspect that by doing this couldd possibly add another ?50-100 if not more onto the final asking price. This is getting into Waldorf territory...and we all know what happened to them. I think there is only so much peopel will pay for a VA......ultimately it might even make sense to build analog poly's again.....purely so that a manufacturer can differentiate themselves from an already saturated VA market.

DS

ben crosland 16.03.2005 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzash
Hey BC, Can we pan 4 saws to the left and pan 4 to the right with the hypersaw ? What else can we do with the hypersaw? I know that we could dial in 9 saws+subs and control the detune spread , Internal sync. Can we use a lfo to pitch up a few saws and pitch down few saws? Just curious :)

Not within a single oscillator, no. However, both of the main oscillators can be assigned to Hypersaw, so they can be panned individually (if you use filter split mode) so the pitch, detune and density (no. of saws) can be programmed and modulated independently. You can also switch off the sync on Osc1 Hypersaw, which allows even more flexibility.

tranzash 16.03.2005 09:41 PM

Thanks Ben for clearing that up :)

Timo 16.03.2005 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Im in no way putting words into Access's mouth, but im guessing the control layout is dictated by cost. Remember, with digital synths....the circuit board is located right below all the knobs and buttons. If you look at a Propet 5 or Jupiter 8....you will see the controls spread out cross the entire surface. Well, this is largly dictated by the fact theres alot of circuitry in there....

For Access to implement more knobs and a wider (less condensed) control surface....this would invariably incur cost. Now, I suspect that by doing this couldd possibly add another ?50-100 if not more onto the final asking price. This is getting into Waldorf territory...and we all know what happened to them. I think there is only so much peopel will pay for a VA......ultimately it might even make sense to build analog poly's again.....purely so that a manufacturer can differentiate themselves from an already saturated VA market.

DS

Not belittling Access in any way. I reckon the Polar's the sexiest looking Virus layout yet (although am a sucker for the Indigo's blue LEDs, but that's purely cosmetic).

A ribbon controller wouldn't be asking much, though? They're fairly small and unobtrustive (would fit nicely just to the bottom of the mod wheels) yet offer a wealth of realtime modulation possibilities (particularly if they're also sensitive to Z-depth [finger pressure]).

Imagine assigning filter-cutoff to the ribbon X-direction, for example, then by tapping along it you can get stuttered/gate-filter type effects absolutely unachievable with a knob (I do it all the time on my Korg). Maybe even morph through wavetables via ribbon, now that would be cool.

Gopal 16.03.2005 10:47 PM

Maybe they could put 22" rims on it with spinners too, I'm sure that wouldn't add much to the price.

How about some underglow neon?

It doesn't matter what they do, someone always wants more.

Hollowcell 16.03.2005 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo
Maybe even morph through wavetables via ribbon, now that would be cool.

I agree with you here Timo. Having wavetables, but then having to rely on a knob or LFOs to morph between them is a little strange. Even a little joystick (or track ball, like on my NordLeader :wink: ) may have been nice. Well maybe it can be set up to respond from a kaos pad or something similar.

grs 17.03.2005 01:06 AM

On that control issue, Access could make a USB control device with ribbons, X/Y, d-beem, etc.
Make it fit snuggly on any TI product, offer 3rd party presets for other vsti,
It could talk directly to th TI without needing a computer present, as long as it didn't put a dint into the streaming of audio I think it would be a great spin off side product.

Targon 17.03.2005 10:02 AM

In all reality, the Korg Z1 was priced not that much higher than the Virus. The Z1 provided a very generous X/Y pad, i imagine this would be a perfect addition to the V!rus. The X/Y Pad is a brilliant controller for many many sounds, esp pads... killa

tranzash 18.03.2005 12:47 AM

Hey Ben, Does the wavetables osc use lot of poly, considering we going to use it with unison :)

tranzash 26.03.2005 01:45 PM

Hey Ben, Does the TI supports AU 1.1?
And does this hypersaw is completely alias free?


Can we expect another video demo for the messe? :D

ben crosland 26.03.2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzash
Hey Ben, Does the TI supports AU 1.1?
And does this hypersaw is completely alias free? :)

AFAIK, yes and yes. (I'm a PC user, but I know the Control 'softsynth' runs on the Mac as well).

Wavetable polyphony doesn't seem to be a problem, and you might not always use it in Unison mode - Chorus can be just as effective at warming up the sound, if that's what you want.

tranzash 26.03.2005 01:54 PM

Thanks Ben :D

DIGITAL SCREAMS 26.03.2005 01:59 PM

Ive always wondered what AFAIK means. Ok, so what does this mean?

Cheers

DS

ben crosland 26.03.2005 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Ive always wondered what AFAIK means. Ok, so what does this mean?

Cheers

DS

As Far As I Know

variation: AFAICT = As Far As I Can Tell


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