AHA!

So, the Orangutang with a black ski-mask and a beer in his hand chasing after two blondes that I saw on the WWW last week was you 3o3?

I should have known!

Cool!

That's me alright; althou i don't chase any blondes. I've already got the best blonde.

althou, she is pissed at me now

But that is an different matter; what i was chasing was acctually more. Hmm. beer - i need more of that

EDIT: And now everything is fine. ah. I love my honeybunny

OK, you were chasing after the BEERS that those two blondes were holding!

Perfectly logical explanation, any sane man, err Orangutang, would have done the same thing...your girlfriend is over reacting!

My pretty little blonde got mad at me when I bought my Virus! :twisted:

Ooops!

That's right - don't stand in the way between my beer and my other beer. damn it.

Argh, i am getting drunk here

I guess I'm sympathetic because I work in software. The business has certain goals that translate into dates and units, but the engineers often won't know what they'll encounter on the way there -- some things just can't be predicted when you are dealing with this much code.

Once the engineers say "yeah, looks like we'll make it," committments to distributors get made and advertising goes out. Managemnet has to do that because those things take time to put in motion.

The odd thing is, of course, that every project takes longer than you want and (usually) less than you fear. That being the case, engineering management would be well served to be pessimistic in their timelines, but they're also trying to scoop competition and dodge creditors.

You could call it a lose/lose scenario.

Maybe the hypersaw and wavetable dont sound too good? For all we know...it might not be that great....and lets face it....you gotta put of fuckign good mp3's to sell a synth. With all this secrecy and daudling around....the mp3's had better make me go wow....otherwise im buying a vintage synth lol

Onllyy joking.....

DS

I agree with Mcoyote here as I work in the software industry too.
However, I also agree with his later statement of:

I worked with a software company about five years ago that sold document imaging systems. They basically missed the boat of having a totally web-based system so they were cracking the whip hard on the development staff to convert the current client-server app. into a web-based one. THEY DROPPED ALL THEIR P.R. MATERIALL TOO EARLY AS WELL...

This caused their existing clients to stop ordering new licenses as they feared an imminent upgrade/conversion and scared their prospective clients into waiting to give them any money because they did not want to be on the "Bleeding Edge" of a new and untested technology.

For Access it is a little different in that a Virus C is still a bad-ass synth and some people might not be shy in buying it even I they know the TI is coming out. It is still bad business, but in al honestly it is a difficult game to win.

No company will ever have their product designed, tested, manufactured and on a perfectly predictable delivery schedule; no matter what business they are in. In general though it is better practice to UNDER PROMISE and OVER DELIVER.

I also agree with 3o3:

This is a fundamental law of man...



...and apparently apes as well!

-AlexHall74

you know i love monkeys but lets get back to the real topic.
any news on the new korg product?

I'm posting on a different forum to see if there is any other info there...

I'll be back!

My wife runs her P.R. firm, maybe ACCESS should hire her! :D She'll get the job done right and get some mp3's and tentative release dates out of them. On the business and PR side though (in all seriousness), they are doing a SHITTY job!!!

I mean seriously though, 2 months go by since announcement and not 1 mp3 of any type or tentative release dates. I think they are forgetting that the orders they have now are PREorders. The customer can change their mind if something better comes along. BUUUUUTTTTT, nothing probably will, soo we wont. :roll:

OK Gents,

I have a piece of info from Tweakheadz.com member synthologist:

This info seems to be pushed towards the possibility of this being a late release of the Oasys platform...

Enjoy!

We are now back on topic Tomer=Trance! :wink:

-AlexHall74

I think we've established it may be OASYS. ;)

>>This info seems to be pushed towards the possibility of this being a late release of the Oasys platform...

However, the stuff that Artur spouted at the top of the thread was ripped from the Vanille.de site, and that stuff is years old. Artur just turned it into a synopsis simply because he heard the name OASYS mentioned on the forums.

The guys there don't know jack all about any more insider info confirming it 100% one way or another, or adding to any info that was already freely available from the OASYS-PCI back in 1998.

I'm hoping it IS OASYS though, as it would be a monstrous concept. And an equally monstrous price tag. :roll: If a 61-note synth action version came under $4K street price, I might even consider it over a Polar TI. I loved the flexibility of Korg's significantly more basic "Moss", but the sound quality of the Oasys is completely on another level to Moss. You could program a hypersaw and wavetable in a release of Oasys as it was meant to be (back in 1994, when the Korg visionaries imagined such a concept, but didn't have the available technology at that time), I'd imagine, which is what I'd be getting a TI for (as well as the Virus characteristic sound, of course). I think that blue joystick effort may even be a hint to wavestation wavetable madness, who knows?
However, I'm not paying owt more than ?2K for a ruddy synth, though, no matter what it does! hehe

let me get this stright
the OASYS is a prototype synth built by korg in the early 90s or did they buy the rights on this from the original manufacture/inventor ?

OASYS is a 100% Korg concept, and it was researched and developed by Korg's team:- http://www.irishacts.com/forum/phpBB...?p=76341#76341

It was meant to be released in this keyboard form:



http://www.vanille.de/extras/oasys/oasys.html

...but it was, I think, too big a concept for its time in 1994 (and still for many years to come). I remember reading somewhere a good while ago that Korg did absolutely massive research on it all, but computer DSP restraints really did put it on a back burner, so much so that, in its earliest stages, they had to "render" sounds offline as opposed to being able to 'play' them in realtime as the synthesis models were so advanced. However, when the keyboard version was meant to be released, it would've also had a street price of around $10K. But they never eventually released it.

Instead, they released the Wavedrum in '94 which was just one physical model of an acoustic drum, the Prophecy in '95 which used a tiny portion of the analog modelling research, and then the Z1 in '97 which used a little more, in the form of more physical models, but even the Z1 had such restraints in that they had to effectively stunt OASYS to fit it into the Z1 hat.

OASYS is "open architecture", so while the Z1 (using MOSS) is using "fixed" algorithims (ie. for the standard analog, comb filtering, ring-mod, oscillator sync'-mod, cross-mod', FM analog-based models as well as the organ, electric piano, strings, plucked, reed, bowed and brass physical models), the OASYS was meant to allow you to effectively design and load up ANY algorithms, not just those ones given (as in the Z1), and then it allow you to do whatever you want with the sound from there on.

In OASYS, there were meant to be no "standard" types of oscillators, LFOs, EGs, filters, etc. restricting you (although preset algorithms are given, as they were on the Z1 for example - I think the OASYS-PCI card released back in the late 90's had even more algorithms, and a better sound quality than the Z1), but OASYS was meant to be totally flexible in that when any new synthesis types are born and created, you can effectively load the algorithms into OASYS and play it like it were a new keyboard. - In other words it's pretty much always upgradable. The sound you get out of it is only limited to the algorithms that you put into it! Very similar to the G2 Modular, and Reaktor I'd imagine.
So, if you wanted a Hypersaw, for example, you could effectively program it in!

Freakily, it's resembling more and more like my (heated?) argument with Ben Crosland a while ago. http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/vie...?p=19945#19945 . I thought it would never happen. And I half-hoped Access would do it first, if it did.

I'm wondering if because Korg released modelled VST-I's of their MS20, Wavestation and PolySix that they might even bundle these algorithms within their OASYS architecture too. Who knows? That blue joystick looks very Wavestation-like!

I think you might even be able to program your own effects, too, but I don't know enough about it to speculate further. I heard that whatever you can do with SynthKit, you can import the equivalent into OASYS.

CHECK THIS ONE OUT PEOPLE!!!
 

I have been mining other forums for info on the new Korg, and found this:

Could the Roland Zeus be for real?

How would this compare to the new Korg?

LOOK AT ALL THOSE KNOBS AND SLIDERS!!!

Is it one of HC's fakes?

-AlexHall74

Link is not working here. I am curious though.

The link is dead, damn shame i did also wanna see what the new Roland looks like (or well the first homemade pictures ala HC)

Try this for the article and pic:

http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultim...;f=18;t=012656

I tried to upload it and I guess it is too big.

Cheers!

-AlexHall74

its a fake....
its was made from a jup picture....

It had to be!

What is jup?

-AlexHall74

What the hell is the Triton as a VST instrument, Fake?

This all is just speculation. 20th of January Korg announces something totally new (finally).

Errr.. En gammal l?sk?tare?

Most talk about korg's new thing is about an new OASYS-thingie

No! En gammal l?skmaskin och glas?tare.

Edit: Man kan ?ta glas och g?r? l?sk - A man can eat glass and make limonade.

H?h?.

Swedish words of wisdom huh?

Yup. The same class as: "B?ttre frisk och rik ?n sjuk och fattig" (Translation: Better healthy and rich than sick and poor). That was actually on our Swedish textbook. A hilarious typo. And that same typo was also on German textbook.

Edit: Juokaa olutta, herkullista! (Trans: Drink beer - delicious!)

roland jupiter analog polysynth.

Triton VST-I IS a fake, albeit a professional one.

http://www.tweakers.net/ext/f/48670/full.jpg ..... is self-explanatory. ;)

For real, I doubt Korg would release any software without having some kinda of stealth dongle protection, like they did with the MS20 controller for Legacy. That tells me that VST-I is most likely fake at this early time, even if it were remotely true!

As for the Zeus, that's fake, and is a mock-up pic that's been made from a jumble of other pics to resemble an artists "ideal" keyboard. The pic has been floating around in cyberspace for years.

http://www.irishacts.com/forum/phpBB...3418&start=120 (scroll down the page)

Who knows really.

I mean Legacy can be found out on the internet - and whatever protection they use it will too 99% be cracked. It's just a matter of time

3,6 GB... BUAHAHAHAHAHA! Classic. Pretty big engine file there...

I really can't understand why people fall on those really absurd fakes, like that Zeus. It looked like a softsynth interface. When Hollowcell made that Virus Appachi by copy-pasting Korg MS20 plugin interface and few people bought that, I wanted to cry. ?hih.

Synth mania seems to be too strong amongst us snth geeks. People, be objective and critical. We Finns have a saying "I don't believe until I see it for real". Everything is 99% hoax until it's on official web site.

There is no secure copy protection. Eventually everything is cracked. For example like when the first dongle protection came everybody said it was end for crackers... Well, we all know what happened. Computer is a stupid workaholic, so it's really easy to deceive it. This means that any kind of digital protection is crackable.

Aye. Although Steinberg have done a good job with SX3.
________
Wellbutrin settlement information

Software Manufacturers vs. Crackers; a typical evolutionary system.

Much like Cops vs. Robbers;

Accountants vs. Tax Codes;

Hardware Synths vs. Software Synths... :wink:

Each will change and respond to the developments of the other and over the long term equilibrium will exist in the systems.

The strong will survive, the weak will perish!

My beer is gone...

AAAAAIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! :wink:

-AlexHall74

Or is it with the sounds? h?h?.

There is something i cant understand aswell. How hard is it to see that the pictures has been modified? Or those Zeus/Juno32 - How someone even could think that they where real. I can't cry but laugh.. alot

Yes, what i mean by 99% - They have done a good job on the new protection for SX3 and alot of crackers has have/are having a hard time cracking it's protection. Yet it still is only a matter of time until it breaks

No no no. Only the Paranoid will survive!

But if there's no-one else left, who will play it?

Are you sure that you are the only one left? i don't think so. There is always someone lurking around in the neighbourhood.

The Virus Appatchi is real though! They are still deciding if they should release it though. If they do release it, it will over take the pre-orders for the TIs I rekon. It hurts that you thought I made that up using an MS20. :wink:



Bloody skeptical nation you are over there! What ever happened to trust? You fell for my Indigo3 though - you can admit it. :D

Oh, when is it coming out? hehe

Indigo3? I don't remember that one. I only remember that Appatchi and Virus Plague.

Indigo3, Hollow's best effort yet...

...almost. ;)

http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/vie...ghlight=indigo