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Timo 09.11.2004 02:58 PM

Even the VirusB got a new upgrade come O.S. v6.5 for the C, in the form of PureTuning.

marc 09.11.2004 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tek_
Thanks for clearing martynreid now I understand, it is exiting and looking at my C now .. , it is still exiting :lol: why don't Access give C users a programmable arp if the unit alows the update for that ofcourse :?

because as with new osc waves which were brought up as a possible update before it requires memory which does not exist in the C series.

best, marc

blay 09.11.2004 04:32 PM

jasedee slowly but surely through generations of inbreeding australians have indeed evolved into the master piss drinking bogans that we are.
you just cant compete with a gene pool this small :wink:

WorkHard 09.11.2004 04:33 PM

What about the TI line? Will there be lots of extra memory there? :?

ben crosland 09.11.2004 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WorkHard
What about the TI line? Will there be lots of extra memory there? :?

To be honest, I think it is a mistake to base a purchase decision on speculation about future upgrades that may or may not happen.

WorkHard 09.11.2004 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ben crosland
Quote:

Originally Posted by WorkHard
What about the TI line? Will there be lots of extra memory there? :?

To be honest, I think it is a mistake to base a purchase decision on speculation about future upgrades that may or may not happen.

and what about the personal computer???

But maybe you mean synthesizer right?

Knowing if there were future upgrades instore may be an incentive for some to buy though ;)

Sunesha 09.11.2004 08:13 PM

I use my old virus b tabletop as fx box sometimes. Is the new virus vsti interface possible to easy use normal fx plugin. Because as for the moment sx3 is limited to only use one external fx. I always liked the distoration and some other things. So I dare to ask if it is possible. Because then surely will buy one soon. Otherwise I wish this for the future;) I am quite tired today so may be dreaming alot.

Btw bought a real mooger fooger filter instead of upgrade to c, hehe.

I would be nice for a 3-4 years grazeperiod. I am wiling to dare to send my old virus to germany for a exchange. I have the serial number and the box left ;)

Sunesha 10.11.2004 09:47 PM

Ok I try to get a answer from some smarter one then me, is it possible to use the Virus Vsti plugin as FX plugin in a audiohost..

Because that would be cool

ben crosland 10.11.2004 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunesha
Ok I try to get a answer from some smarter one then me, is it possible to use the Virus Vsti plugin as FX plugin in a audiohost..

Because that would be cool

From what I understand - the plugin itself is just a controller and librarian, kinda like sounddiver on steroids.

I imagine the Total Integration thingy will allow for the routing of audio tracks through the Virus' filters and fx, yes. Just don't quote me on it ;)

Sunesha 10.11.2004 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ben crosland
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunesha
Ok I try to get a answer from some smarter one then me, is it possible to use the Virus Vsti plugin as FX plugin in a audiohost..

Because that would be cool

From what I understand - the plugin itself is just a controller and librarian, kinda like sounddiver on steroids.

I imagine the Total Integration thingy will allow for the routing of audio tracks through the Virus' filters and fx, yes. Just don't quote me on it ;)

Ah I see, I am bit confused about the audiointerface part on usb. So believed that maybe it could stream some audio.

Also understand like sounddiver but as plugin instead.

Otherwise it would be easy thing to do it anyway, just use the fx directly from screen..

Guess I will have to wait *sigh

Thanks ben

3o3 11.11.2004 04:40 AM

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You mean there really is a monkey that comes with the new Virus
Oh my Buddah! It's a dream come true then!

Is it possible to buy a case for the monkeys?

Nah, really the new virus is looking awesome - Even if i'd like to have one, the price of Virus C is getting really low in Sweden now.

"Virus C in mint condition + rackkit = 6500:- SEK" which is
703 Euro/905 US/96.239 Yen.

Timo 12.11.2004 02:16 PM

Interesting flowchart regards the Virus TIs integration with computers:-

http://www.gearjunkies.com/product_gallery.php?id=2277

zooloo 12.11.2004 02:21 PM

hey timo :)

that flow chart is from Access' website

here with a bit of blurb about the TI aspect too...

z.

ten 12.11.2004 10:47 PM

pre-ordered my TI from digi village today, should arrive in 3/4 weeks with first UK shipment (so ive been told) cant bloody wait :)

Anyone who wants the virus powercore for cheap, im selling mine on for ?199, cost ?330 new so grab a bargin. pm if interested - will post worldwide

ten

ten 13.11.2004 04:34 AM

I read this comment from Marc Schlaile on another forum.

'let me clarify one important thing: the virus TI has a USB2 compatible USB interface with the speed of USB1.1 (which to my knowledge is 12mbit). the copy on our website and press release is the official recommendation from the usb.org but I get the feeling that it's being misunderstood.

there scenario outlined on the access website is _one_ of many possible configurations. to my knowledge, there is ways to offer more than 2 stereo channels and we understand that depending on the situation this makes a lot of sense.

the same goes for the possibility of sending data into the virus' sound engine, process it and send it back again.

please understand that I cannot answer all these questions right now. at the same time, postings lining out which configurations are being desired will help us to put the final touch on the TI software.'



If youre reading this Marc, you mention you would like feedback from people about what configurations they would want the TI to have. I think the most demanded will be to have all 16 stereo chans over usb each with thier own individual mixer output in the host application. I dont know if thats possible with usb 1.1 speed and I could get by with just the 2 chans but 4/6/8 or if all 16 is possible would make the TI amazing.

Theres my configuration request :)

ten

blay 13.11.2004 04:40 AM

that sounds good to me too :wink:

Blank 13.11.2004 07:30 AM

Dude you need to read the specs...this has alteast enough for me to upgrade...i just wish i had the cash...maybe when i get my tax return :lol:

peace
Blank

ben crosland 13.11.2004 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ten
I think the most demanded will be to have all 16 stereo chans over usb each with thier own individual mixer output in the host application. I dont know if thats possible with usb 1.1 speed and I could get by with just the 2 chans but 4/6/8 or if all 16 is possible would make the TI amazing.

The hardware outputs only provide 3 stereo outs, remember, not 16 stereo outs! I expect you will be able to route all 16 multi parts through the usb audio, but that it will be via 2 stereo busses..

-=BC

ten 13.11.2004 08:10 AM

Thats my point ben. 2 stereo bus (which i take to mean 2 mixer chans in the host app) is not a lot. If the config 'can' be changed I would want each part of the 16 to have its own stereo chan and mixer chan in the host app across the usb, so this would mean 16 stereo bus's instead of 2 I belive? And wouldnt have to even bother with the normal analog outs or spdif.

ten[/u]

marc 13.11.2004 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ten
Thats my point ben. 2 stereo bus (which i take to mean 2 mixer chans in the host app) is not a lot. If the config 'can' be changed I would want each part of the 16 to have its own stereo chan and mixer chan in the host app across the usb, so this would mean 16 stereo bus's instead of 2 I belive? And wouldnt have to even bother with the normal analog outs or spdif.

ten[/u]

16 discreet stereo channels are not possible. unfortunately. the limit (to my knowledge) is 4 (or 8 mono) and of course you still will have the 3 stereo analog outs. so the outcome in any scenario is better than with the virus A-B-C series.

best, marc

(Edited -)

ten 13.11.2004 08:05 PM

That would be extremely cool, marc. 6 stereo chans over usb would be fantastically better than 2 and if you can make it so im sure a lot of TI users would be very very happy :)

ten

blay 14.11.2004 03:58 AM

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so the outcome in any scenario is better than with the virus A-B-C series.
well we'd kind of hope so :wink:

6 stereo outs via usb would be just dandy :wink:

marc 15.11.2004 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ten
That would be extremely cool, marc. 6 stereo chans over usb would be fantastically better than 2 and if you can make it so im sure a lot of TI users would be very very happy :)

ten

in fact it is 4 stereo channels, not 6 (sorry about that). 4 is exactly what you have in terms out hardware ins and outs as well. i think 4 is more than OK - i never ran into a situation with my KC where is _really_ needed more and with the TIs 16 delays and reverbs this chance is even smaller now

marc

blay 15.11.2004 01:12 PM

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in fact it is 4 stereo channels, not 6 (sorry about that). 4 is exactly what you have in terms out hardware ins and outs as well. i think 4 is more than OK - i never ran into a situation with my KC where is _really_ needed more and with the TIs 16 delays and reverbs this chance is even smaller now
no complaints here so far marc... besides the fact it hasnt arrived yet :wink:

ten 15.11.2004 02:29 PM

marc, sounds good.....does that mean its gonna ship with with the option of having 4 stereo bus's over usb or are you just saying it is possible to have 4 but its not implemented? :lol: and yes I would be ecstatic with 4 stereo chans over usb, shouldnt need anymore!

thanks for all the info btw, its great to have you access guys on here.

ten

grs 15.11.2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ten
Thats my point ben. 2 stereo bus (which i take to mean 2 mixer chans in the host app) is not a lot. If the config 'can' be changed I would want each part of the 16 to have its own stereo chan and mixer chan in the host app across the usb, so this would mean 16 stereo bus's instead of 2 I belive? And wouldnt have to even bother with the normal analog outs or spdif.

ten[/u]

The 16 parts mixed inside your sequencer via a theoretical usb2 link would sound just the same as they would be mixing in your viurs. You probaly desire the 'vst plugin' per part. I wouldn't dream of loosing the analog outs, I say give us at least 2 more (4 stereo) and while your there make the drivers access all of them, not just 2 (1 stereo buss). There are those of us who prefer 'real hardware plugins' than vst ones.

*edit* On the other hand, if all parts were avaliable in your sequencer, you could buy extra/better hardware outs and like you say, have no dependancy on the virus outs.

ten 15.11.2004 03:13 PM

Oh dont get me wrong, I didnt mean get rid of the analog outs I just meant you wouldnt have to use them (or I wouldnt :)

Personally Id prefer to do it all over usb instead of combining the usb chans with the analog chans, thats why id love to see a couple more over usb but I also appreciate lots of other people are happy with the classic way of doing things.

I sold my virus powercore to get the TI and I guess im spoilt with the ease of use of soft synths now, I sold my an1x and jp8080 to get the virus powercore because I couldnt stand midi and recording audio tracks from external synths, every sound needing recording over and over because they only have one output etc. Everything is done in the final mixdown with softies, just fire up several instances and having all your settings saved etc was great, no messy sysex pish :) And thats the reason id love them to squeeze a couple more over usb for this ease of use. And im sure a lot of people like me who were bought up with software only feel the same about this, and so the TI would appeal to a wider audience and thus sell access more synths ;)

ten

dries 15.11.2004 05:13 PM

- 80+ voices
- VST-instrument
- prog. arp
- real multimode with 16 diff. D/R
- wavetabel osc
- etc. etc.

this is a killer synth.

blay 15.11.2004 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ten
And thats the reason id love them to squeeze a couple more over usb for this ease of use. And im sure a lot of people like me who were bought up with software only feel the same about this

yeah i tend to agree on this one.
im really impressed with the idea of all patch parameters being saved within the song.... anything that speeds up workflow is a big positive for me.

but im certainly not too worried if i have to use both the analog and usb outs to get what i need :wink:

tranzash 20.11.2004 01:53 AM

TI
 
How many osc can we use at same time? Is it like 3osc and sub or 5osc and sub? 5osc(3 viri osc+hypersaw+wave table) :?

grs 20.11.2004 03:43 AM

I'm just guessing but I think the hypersaw and the wavetable osc will be available as a choice in OSC1 or OSC2.


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