Fair enough,i got ya...It Just don't do it 4 me..I love FX and experiment all the time thats way i don't rate it...

ok i got it to work, but a different way, by chance, dont ask me why cuz i dont know hehe. i set "osc balance" to -64, "edit osc 1", select "spectral wave", "wave select at 32", heres the wierd part, i press select for LFO 1 and, assign target LFO 1 to filter 1 cutoff and amount to 21 and it works perfect. with no mod on the wave select

That does really sound wierd :confused:

could some one else with a TI try my method and get back to me? thanks!