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DIGITAL SCREAMS 04.03.2006 01:57 PM

Nice sounds. DO you not have an A6? Cant you use the onboard distortion on that?

DS

F5D 04.03.2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Nice sounds. DO you not have an A6? Cant you use the onboard distortion on that?

DS

Yes I could use that distortion too and maybe I'll try it but anyway I need a separate distortion for the 101 that I can use both synths at the same time. Also the distortion built in A6 is quite harsh and not everybody likes it. Maybe some kind of a tube distortion would be best but I have to try some more plugins first.

DIGITAL SCREAMS 04.03.2006 06:33 PM

How about a side by side comparison of the 101 and A6 (obviously using only one oscilator)....Id like to get a feeling for how they compare....

You up for that?

DS

F5D 04.03.2006 10:11 PM

Ok, now you can guess which one is which...

synth1
synth2

:)

Timo 04.03.2006 10:21 PM

Synth2 sounds great, squelchy. Wondering if you used some filter-env on that synth that you didn't use on synth1? Guessing, from the previous acid/sound samples (great they were too :) nice one) Synth1 is the 101 and Andromeda is synth2?

DIGITAL SCREAMS 04.03.2006 10:41 PM

Synth 1 = andromeda
Synth 2 = 101

Subtle differences between the two. Both sound very nice.

DS

Hollowcell 04.03.2006 10:46 PM

Sounds good F5D! Specially like the Acid clip. :D

Ahhh, analogue monos.....

F5D 04.03.2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Synth 1 = andromeda
Synth 2 = 101

Subtle differences between the two. Both sound very nice.

DS

You guessed right. In fact I was a little surprised that they sound so close to each other. The noise is different and the filter. With andro, I can choose between white and pink noise and I guess the sh101's noise generator produces some kind of a pink noise too but it sounds different and "older". I used andro's pink noise because it sounds closer to the sh101's noise than the white noise.

I didn't include any filter resonance sounds but sh101 is somehow better with acid sounds. Andro is not bad either but sounds different with high resonances. With andro you also have to turn the resonance knob alot to hear the resonance and with the 24dB/octave ("moog filter") it comes up very fast at some point and self oscillates very easily so you have to set the resonance very carefully.

I accidentally had some filter modulation with sh101 but it didn't matter so much in these clips.

Like you hear, A6 can also produce some fat tones with a single oscillator. It's just sad that if you try the presets in a store, they all have too much resonance or some other weird settings and the synth may sound thin. I don't understand the default program either because it has 2 oscillators playing saw + triangle waves and they phase cancel each other and it also sounds weak.

edit. Forgot to add this... :)

...and this: Juno 106 - Terminator Theme

I almost start crying when I listen to that theme which I played with my juno-106 2.5 years ago. I could play that melody for hours keeping my eyes closed and waiting for those nukes falling from the sky. :P :cry:

I was afraid that my juno will break and I sold it. For only that one sound, I could almost buy one again. But I hear that they are coming to the end of their life cycle because the oscillator- and filter chips have started to break. It's Roland's own asic chip and they don't make them anymore. Why don't those bastards build some more Juno's! Well, actually they do but you cannot create this sound with Juno D or G. :cry: :evil:

btw, the Terminator 1 theme was played with analog synths (maybe juno?). T2 and T3 have some real or sampled strings. The original T1 movie also has some very special analog sound effects. :P

DIGITAL SCREAMS 05.03.2006 05:15 PM

Dont worry about Juno 106's m8. Buy a Juno 60 and midi retro fit it. 60's sound warmer than 106's anyhow....win win situation.

DS

F5D 05.03.2006 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Dont worry about Juno 106's m8. Buy a Juno 60 and midi retro fit it. 60's sound warmer than 106's anyhow....win win situation.

DS

Yeah, I've heard that the 60 sounds better than the 106. However, I suddenly remembered that I had sampled many sounds from my 106 before selling it and I just built an exs24 program with terminator samples and it sounds almost identical to the original. 8) However I cannot use the filter cutoff because the sounds were sampled with juno's own filter but I don't need cutoff with this sound.


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