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Tomer=Trance 23.12.2005 01:50 PM

Ni's Battery will be much more useful since you could always buy new sample cds to run thru it.

Doc Jones 23.12.2005 01:51 PM

Hi Alex, yeah, I do own Intakt and it is a good piece of software. It's very much like the rex player in Reason where the pitch and tempo are independent of each other and you can manipulate the loop at the slice (or hit) level. But honestly, once you go with RMX, you will probably never want to use another software for rhythm generation. I really can't do it justice here, but it really is an amazing piece of software. Now don't get me wrong, RMX is very expandable with sage expanders from both spectrasonics and illios - neither of these require and slicing on your part. But I just love the flexibility RMX offers me as far as importing my own sample libraries (and own customized loops) into RMX using recycle. RMX has breathed a whole new life into my sample library - with it's amazing effects section, chaos improvisation etc. For me, recycle is actually quite a simple program, but I have been using it for years and have gotten to the point where I can cut up a loop or sample set almost perfectly. It takes a little practice, but you eventually get the hang of it and once you do, you end up going through everything and cutting it up to get it into RMX! :)

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Originally Posted by AlexHall74
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Originally Posted by Doc Jones
agreed, I find Stylus RMX to be one of my favorite vstis. Be sure to pick up a copy of recycle as well so that you can chop up all of your loops and import them into rmx (if you go with it :) )

Hey Doc, have you used NI's Inktakt?

I have read on another forum that Intakt is similar to ReCycle, maybe easier, maybe a little more feature rich.

I bought Reason almost 2 years ago and hated it so I never got into ReCycle...

Cheers!

-Alex


Doc Jones 23.12.2005 01:56 PM

also Alex, think of recycle more as a tool rather than an instrument. Basically you use recycle to properly "cut up" your loops to proper hit points so that they can be played back in your software of choice.

Smag 23.12.2005 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mind_over_gravity
I'm using dr-880 drum machine for acoustic drums and HPD-15 for ethnic and electro groove altogether the sound is amazing . 8)

I'm with you on the DR880, quality snares, toms and cymbals galore

The girl next door 23.12.2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EnjoyRC
Stylus RMX ... definitely!

In the music that streams from my site... you'll hear Groove Agent. Now I've migrated over to Stylus RMX. Far superior to Steinberg's Groove Agent.

Yeah.. we also use RMX, 1000 times better than Groove agent.
Were using it on our new track which is nearly finished..The DOC has already had a preview of the track and he likes it. :lol:
After getting a slaging off from certain people we totally changed our style
COMING SOON

hatembr 23.12.2005 04:46 PM

for the drum parts i import the samples directly into audio tracks in cubase and create my rythms, i feel i have a better control over them this way, and i gain some RAM & CPU usage

The girl next door 23.12.2005 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hatembr
for the drum parts i import the samples directly into audio tracks in cubase and create my rythms, i feel i have a better control over them this way, and i gain some RAM & CPU usage

We record ours as an Audio track when we have the Percussion how we want it...

Khazul 23.12.2005 05:14 PM

I one ore more of the following, separatrely or layered, played or programmed:

Yamaha Motif ES Rack drum kits
Roland TD6KV VDrum kit
Reason V3 + RDK

Between that lot I usuall find what I am looking for, though I keep going through phases where I lust after a machine drum.

If you have no other hardware rompler/synths at all, then I think you should have a good look at a rompler to give you access to all those stock sounds that are really useful sometimes, including loads of drum sounds usually.

Reason is very good and easy to work with, but I personally find its raw samples seem to be a bit dead and take a fair bit of tweaking a procesing to bring alive. You can of course easily include your own, so I often sample of my v-drum kit. Motif ES drums seem to have a good punch to them, so I quite like them, either single or layered with something else.

I still think that for most flavours of electronica, there is nothing better for drums than a machine drum. (Lust... :))

Oh yeh - V-Synth makes for an excellent drum machine as well.


BTW - girl next door - I love that cover art - really nice :)

Gopal 23.12.2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
So...most people use software drums these days? I dont like working with software...hell I dont even like working :lol:

What hardware alternatives are there these days? Drum machines with individual outs?

DS

You can pick up a Novation Drumstation for very reasonable money if you can find one and that will give you EXACTLY the same sounds as a TR808 and TR909 (Have done direct comparisons and forking out for the original Roland boxes is sheer stupidity IMO)

The Drumstation will give you 8 1/4 inch jack outputs and each sound is freely assignable to each output. If only it had a step sequencer it would be one of the best drum machines out (besides Machinedrum of course, but thats at least 5 times the price)

Now, does anyone know of a hardware midi step sequencer that I could step write on to control the drumstation with?

Hollowcell 23.12.2005 09:34 PM

EMU sampler here.

The EMU has multiple outs, which alows me to process each drum/loop/loop-part differently - also recording each drum element to a seperate track is a must. It also has a gain boost which is very pleasing. And the filters are fucking great!

I use recycle to chop and re-chop beats, transfering them back and forth to the sampler.

I also have a HPD15 which I use a trigger for certain beats. Although I've been thinking of selling this thing, beacause I like the feel of doing most of my drums from the keyboard, as it gives you lots of control over gating.


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