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ddeez 15.10.2005 06:59 PM

ben you da man for being so helpful

and i havent even gotten my ti yet!

MADSTATION 15.10.2005 07:01 PM

I second that.
Many thanks to Ben for being around and being so helpful.

grs 16.10.2005 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ben crosland
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Originally Posted by Xtigma
why is mid the only frequency that is a mod destination?

... just curious...

because it is the only eq band which makes sense to modulate in realtime, as it's effect is far more filter-like than the other two.

Just out of curiositly would it hurt to offer all parameters as destinations? I'm sure it would lead to more creativity, but I guess that may increase complexity to the average user.

ben crosland 16.10.2005 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by grs
Just out of curiositly would it hurt to offer all parameters as destinations? I'm sure it would lead to more creativity, but I guess that may increase complexity to the average user.

Well for one thing, there are a finite number of mod destinations available - it doesn't make sense to waste them on parameters which would hardly ever be used in that way.

dr. orange 16.10.2005 12:04 PM

[quote="ben crosland"]
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Originally Posted by grs
it doesn't make sense to waste them on parameters which would hardly ever be used in that way.

I would use them, even frequently. But there's still the possibility that it'll be "fixed" with one of the following updates...

dr. orange 16.10.2005 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by grs
but I guess that may increase complexity to the average user.

Ain't it more complex to avarage users to be irritated by seing that only one EQ-filter-freq can be modulated?

ben crosland 16.10.2005 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. orange
I would use them, even frequently. But there's still the possibility that it'll be "fixed" with one of the following updates...

No - it won't. This decision was taken a long time ago when the C was developed.

I'm curious - in what circumstance would you find it necessary to modulate the Hi and Lo EQ parameters?

Bear in mind that the Mid EQ Frequency range extends well into both territories..

grs 16.10.2005 01:13 PM

I think the word 'finite' sums it up pretty much for me. For instance 3 LFOs seem pleanty even though some may want more. Like how many legs does a chair need?

Blah!

Realy eq is not exaclty a staple synth parrameter, it's more a in the mix placement thing.

dr. orange 16.10.2005 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ben crosland
I'm curious - in what circumstance would you find it necessary to modulate the Hi and Lo EQ parameters?

I wouldn't use an LFO as modulator, therefore, you are absolutely right, it would be pointless to modulate the high and low EQ since therefore, you better use filters which provide a much better result.

But what I want to do sometimes is to accent the "body" of the sound and lower the upper freq. bands and that configuation is not fixed like a normal mixing EQ but dynamic to the pitch. The selected accentuated freq. band is relatively fixed to the pitch - you give the sound a new coloration...

Hope I could formulate my intentions...

Now, there's only one EQ available therefore, three would be better...

ben crosland 16.10.2005 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. orange
But what I want to do sometimes is to accent the "body" of the sound and lower the upper freq. bands and that configuation is not fixed like a normal mixing EQ but dynamic to the pitch. The selected accentuated freq. band is relatively fixed to the pitch - you give the sound a new coloration...

Hope I could formulate my intentions...

Now, there's only one EQ available therefore, three would be better...

As far as the Low EQ is concerned, it is unlikely you would need keyfollow to affect this, as it will only boost frequencies that are there - bass frequencies don't tend to be present in high notes.

As for lowering the upper frequencies - there are two filters already (with keyfollow), plus a Lopass saturation type (with keyfollow if you wish) and Distortion type. These are 1-pole, and so very gentle in their effect. Both can be modulated with keyfollow independently.

I'm pretty sure you could achieve pretty much exactly the effect you want with the existing features.


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