For basses I tend to use Saw's and Pulses. A sine+saw combo can be nice......but generally speaking VA sines are not that great. Sine waves on a Jupiter 8 are pretty awesome.

If u want to use sine wave bass use a true analog synth.

* I made a great DoubleBass patch on the Virus KC the other day using 2 Pulse waves. Really cool hehehe.

DS

yeah mixing a complex harmonic wave like saw with sine gives a very good result

Yeah, I have never really been crazy about the sine waves on the virus. The sine waves on my DW8000 sound somewhat interesting though. When I created the patch on Pro53, I know I used sine wave and it just rumbled with sub bass.

As far as being a geek goes *(digital screams), I know how you feel. When I sit down to work on some new tracks and try to get another sound from the virus, I look at the clock and realize I have turned knobs for over an hour....If i can only remember to store patches when the start to sound cool. I have a hard time getting sounds back to the way I had them after turning a few more knobs.

Nothing wrong with being a Synth geek guys! :D

Sine bass - well everything has been said already. It's a good way to smuther everything bass wise in a mix and use up all your headroom, but there are times when it can be used well - just not as often as saws or what have you.

Don't ever lose your "Synth-geekness" guys!! :wink:

When you say pulse wav. What do you mean? I know sine tri saw square. Is it just changing the pulse width on any of the above? Or is it just any of the 64 wave shapes? Damn I should really know this one. & I feel stupid for asking.

Pulse is another name for Square. Really, a Square wave is a Pulse wave at 50%.

Turn the Shape knob fully clockwise.

Using sine and pushing it through bags of distortion is great (almost resembles a square wave, but sounds phatter due to the transient-like distortions). Due to it then having more harmonic content to play with, you can then mess around with the filters + resonance to fine tune it. Square-esque type waves are just evil, mwhahahahaa :twisted:
Using two similar oscillators is good, but use very small amounts of detune only otherwise the waveform will start 'beating' (kinda like, er, flapping about a lot, lol :lol: ). Adding a very small amount of ring-mod will also add some nice dirty harmonics when used on two sine oscs. :)

[Timo proceeds to stick Spin Spin Sugar on, on the hifi]

That's a cracking tune that one.

Thanks for some good tips guys!!!!!

Before I got a VIRUS, to get good bass sounds, I would grab my Akai S2000 take a sampled wave file and hammer it as hard and as hot I could into the channel on my little Behringer mixing desk. Then record the distorted out put using the volume to control the level of distortion and re-sample it.

Same kind of thing I suppose and the Mixer added its own nuances in the distortion and distress of the mixer.

Has anyone tried modulating the wave shape effects? Im gonna give it ago tonight on my humble Rack Classic.

Peace

i agree - some great ideas guys.
look forward to putting them into practice :wink: