Well, I think its clear and obvious that HC's distributor is by far the most reliable.

Any other info from any other distributors and even Access themselves shall be disregarded as HC is now handling all PR relating to the TI

(Or is that the TI.007?)

8)

Lol. :lol:

Well, to tell the truth BenC said it isn't a feature of the current TI. I'm hoping it would be a later addition to the OS. I'm a big fan of the Z3ta+ VST-I and have gotten too used to being able to design your own oscillators, so I probably won't sell my Indigo and buy the TI until it can manipulate the wavetables in a similar fashion. That would be the absolute ultimate cherry on the cake for me, as it would be a no-brainer - it would literally crush all the other synths out there!!!

(Tell a lie, I have a pending laptop purchase imminently and wont therefore have the funds for a TI for a good while, so am getting down on my knees and praying by then it might import or customise wavetables remotely via the software a la Z3ta+ ! ;) )

Ok Access i'm going to Hawaii for two weeks, I sure hope in that time there is more progress on a release date...PLEASE!

Hi Steve. Further to this, I got a reply from Marc Schlaile, Access Support. Hope he doesn't mind me posting.

I guess the initial search is, therefore, off. ;)

So how long is this beta testing suppose to take and whats the hang up. Theres always gonna be bugs and if they are trying to fix all of them this thing will never be released. I recieved one of the first shippments of the virus c with its first OS and there were many a bug but fixed in OS updates. Really people we dont mind updating! we would like to have a beta update on the hold ups. It must be nice to be a beta tester. all smug and cozy with thier TI's mocking us knowing its thier decision on release 8O . STOP milking it guys and on a curious note. If any of these testers are producers (which im sure some are) are allowed to release any new tracks using the TI or is there a clause or something that permits them not to use it commercially.

Interesting point i3. If one was a producer and had a beta Ti.....it might be possible for them to make a commercial tune using the 'new' features and get one ahead of the pack (initially atleast). Fuckers..... lol :lol:

DS

quote from a member on www.virusti.com:

good for a laugh, anyways.
(sorry ten :wink: )

ok thats it! im going to radio shack and building my own. Ill make a parts list for you guys..... :lol:

update
 

Just to let you guys know and before you hear it from somewhere else. This came straight from access:

"Products are expected to ship in December 2004."

man I cant wait. I just wanted you guys to be the first to know. :o

Wow so they shipped half a year ago :o

They just didnt want you to know :wink:

Or maybe their local time is set to -8760 hours EET (Europe)

8)

Maybe :lol:

sorry guys what was I thinking.

"> Available March 2005"

thats the right release date.

The access site is like a wheres waldo game. Lets see how many false release dates on the access site we can find. The winner gets another false release date. whos in? The funny thing is that they never fix it!

With june around the corner, an update on the release date would be more than appreciated!

Sorry guys for posting this, GSF (the US distributor for access) says access will ship the TI at the end of July or late August. I know that you should'nt be listening to anyone other than access.

Funny since I was told they are shipping the units next week.

Oh well :(

Really we shouldnt be listening to anyone with these false release dates including access. They have to tell you something for the volume of calls coming in, im sure just to keep you interested. every heard of the term blowing hot air up your ass. :oops:

I was told the Virus TI will be released next week! Wont be long now guys :P

WIHH
________
HALFBAKED

well, I was once told the Ti would be released in Dec` 2004. the info came from an official access employe, BTW...

now you can`t get much more relible info then that, can ya...;-)


Best,
midi.

*sigh* well, whatever. novamusik better be giving me a free synth or osmething for that special gift for being so pacient. I'm one of the few who hasn't pulled out their preorders since November. It better be a free Korg Oasys or I'll raise hell :)

yeah I have been hanging in there with novamusik too, I wonder what the *free* gift is they promised. Maybe its a T-shirt that says "I waited 8 months for my new TI!" :roll:

I'm on the same boat..ordered from Novamusik heh

Out of curiosity...how much longer do you guys intend to wait? For the same money...why dont you all buy Andromeda A6's....after all...its true analog as opposed to simulated.

DS

Good ?. I would still have my C if it wasnt for the intergrated part of the TI! If korg or novation was on the ball they could have the same type of intergration and prolly beat access's million release dates. Theres just something bout a company that falsifies information to its customers. It makes me real sketchy thinking about whats really going on behind access's doors. exspecially after the last 2 virus's I purchased had some sort of defect in them. :?

I3 are you the opinionated guy on the Virus mailing list. You know bud....my messages never get posted now :(

DS

well im sorry to here that and what you just figured that out? as does everyone I also do have a opinion. mailing list or here doesnt matter. Ive been around since my first virus a. Really if you dont like what I have to say then dont read it. Its as simple as that. The ranting and raving of issues are important to the community. someone needs to rant and stand in line in the complaint dept. If you stay bent over all the time then take it like you dish it. To start some shite yes..its to let those people as i said in the mailing list to get out of access's butt and realize that access had a big marketing flaw in their product and shouldnt release dates that they cant come through with. Its inevitable to have problems with new gear yes but if you have to keep falsifying dates and not letting the consumers whats up sounds shotty. I would feel better as im sure other consumers would is on the way the TI was introduced. premature dates on a who knows when release or a introduction on the FAB TI with unofficial release dates. wow you know what I guess people could enjoy their virus c now without selling. but then again guess thats my opinion. Its all fun and games. :P

As long as it takes at this point. This has become a personal challenge of endurance and patience, I can't give in now. This is the music equivalent of the Iron Man Triatholon race in Hawaii.

Seriously though I have definitely had some weak moments when I was ready to cancel but I am hanging in there. Its just when I look at what else is out there I don't see anything that can do all that the TI can do, as far as sound/integration goes. I really can only afford one nice keyboard/synth at this point, might as well get one the does it all, right? :)

On a side note it looks like novamusik has some refurbished Andromeda's going for around $2000. It does look like a nice keyboard.

I was expecting to wait 2 more weeks then cancelling my preorder and getting a 2nd hand virus c. If we are really looking at a release in august or something, this is longer than what I can afford. I got some remix work to do and while I would really love to do it with the TI, if it's not available soon I'll have to let it go :(

Ive spent the money allocated for the TI on a new Nord 2 X, Lexicon MPX550 effects unit and Boss DR880 drum machine. I'll be taking it down to uni.....and making some slow electro groves for all ma bitches

DS

I might be heading that way this week. I wanna go test drive her first..I just got the korg legacy vsti and man this thing rocks for a vsti...cpu hungry mother f!@#$%^ lemme tell ya...

Well thats just it i3......I cant really run VSTI's on my desktop despite its high spec. I mean, alot of the sounds ive loaded into CS80v for example were using like 60%+ cpu on ust 4 note polly. Just crazy....

Softsynths will come into their own, once most people are using dual or quad processors and 64 bit......

But even then....softsynths wont be finding their way into my studio. Hate the things....

DS

we'll see DS.
Give it a year or two and you will be eating those words :wink:

cheers

blay

I hate those soft synths too which use too much cpu. I use only light native plugins (mostly logic plugins) and dsp powered plugins and most of the synth sound come from my hardware "reason" rack. ;)

I dont actually own any softsynths/VSTi's........well, I guess Reason could be classed as one, but still I only use Reason for it's drum machine.

I think regardless of how softsynths are advancing in terms of sound quality and CPU usage, I will always buy a hardware synth before I succumb to this crazy trend.

Bah humbug :)

haha!


this argument cracks me up. old technology vs. new technology.

Sooner or later the people embracing new tools unavailable in dedicated hardware form will be outstretching the sound capabilities possible with old technologies. People using old technologies will sound old.

Thus time plods on, with the new age embracing the new technology, and the people stuck in their ways continuing to be stuck in their ways, and moaning about why people can't appreciate the old way of doing things...



If people don't embrace new technologies, informed by tradition, we would still be writing on papyrus and complaining about the quality of type compared to ink...


yawn.

I'd like to respond to this...but hang on a sec...my legs arn't what they used to be ever since I got cracked copy of Pro53.

DS

Actually, Id like to go one step further and state that I actually think all these soft 'analogs' sound very shite to my ears.

More power to you if your music heavily relies on them muhahahahahah :twisted:

Only joking....softsynths are da best!

Oh dear I should knock off the sarcasm....but its real difficult when you've just spent 4 hours of quality time with a Prophet 5 :!:

DS

guys...i mean, COME ON!
it's really obvious to see that some people have their own preference lol
let's not start a software/hardware debate topic #183 in this thread ;)

Personally I think that softsynths are really "getting there", too bad most of them are way too cpu hungry. Anyone saying that softsynths OR hardware sucks is most definately way too narrow minded :P

we are hangin by string waiting for this TI. we have to keep our mind away from this scandal. ya but it is personal preference. me myself love the old warm analog sound compared to the emulated va but technology goes a step forward each time with new suprises around the corner that make them sound better and better. If only we could take the old analog and put it in our pc or intergrate it with out the cpu load would just be the dream. Im thinking to myself when am I going to wake up from this TI nightmare!

A couple or so forthcoming generations of computer in time will spawn software studios of stunning quality and quantity (instances) of each software synth, where every nuance is catered for, and additions that far exceed what hardware is capable of doing.

When CPU resources become truly abundant, powercore's and other external DSP gear etc. may not even be needed! What comes around, goes around.

Even EQ will eventually be coded to sound excellent, and you'll be able to use several instances of luscious convolution reverb in each song. Everything is heading towards convolution anyway, be it reverb, effects, EQ, dynamics, mic-pre modelling.... literally everything.

Access really need to go places with this TI, and the TI v2 (if/whenever), imho. I was kinda hoping Access' next synth (what we now know as the TI) would make more of a splash with new and diverse features. It sounds great and everything, but really only the Hypersaw and wavetables are new (synthesis wise). The rest is as per the Virus C - just "more of", and the added software control.

I really hope we get to hear more of the TI soon. =/