With all this extra time being spent on finalising the Ti.....im hoping it will come shipped with optimized wavetables and factory presets....

DS

I swear I have seen that furry little animal before (DS's avatar). For some reason I think it is from the old "Fraggle Rock" show.

Actually I think that's bizkit from The Dark Crystal (Jim Henson)

Guys - you know I can't be making any actual estimates, but I would certainly be surprised if it took quite as long as the above predictions!

Anyway, I can at least say that, yes, the TI will ship with a pretty decent selection of exclusive presets. Not only that but the ROM banks have been extended and the patches updated to make use of all 3 soft knobs.

sorry for hijacking the thread for this rather self indulgent question..

... I've never owned a virus keyboard before, but I have the KTI on order, and I'm wondering if someone who has (ben crosland particularly because he's used the keyboard) can tell me if there's room to fit a computer keyboard on that bare panel (and a mouse mat?).

Trying to plan my studio, and that would be an especially satisfying arrangement if it is possible...

cheers.

There's certainly room for the keyboard, as I have done precisely that at the trade-shows. Not sure if there would still be room for a mouse mat - possibly a small one.

ace, thanks :)

I would use a X-keys unit and a mouse. a killer combo! :D


Best,
midi.

i guess i would like to ask
ben crosland
a direct question.

as you have played the TI (maybe at NAMM) how would you compare the TI and the VIRUS C.

i am also finding it hard to wait for the TI, AND sometimes think i should just purchase the C.

do you think i should wait.

Also does the TI sound different slightly when going straight to computer via USB, in comparison to having to go through D/A conversion and then A/D conversion via soundcard, which could slightly alter the sound.

Does it sound more like a softsyth when going through USB.

The demo on the ACCESS SITE-- was that via USB or analog outputs.


is the TI much better than the VIRUS C- oops sorry about such a direct question- but hey!!!!!!

The more I get into wavetable synthesis on the TI, the more I realise the difference in capability compared to the C. The HyperSaw probably makes more of an immediate impact, but wavetables are where it's at for me at the moment. For what it's worth, one of the beta-testers (who shall remain anonymous) told me the other day that he thinks the TI's implementation of wavetable synthesis is better than that of Waldorf's! I can't comment on this, having never owned or played a Waldorf synth, but the person in question doesn't tend to say such things lightly..

As for the difference between analog or USB outputs, I couldn't tell you. I always monitor the sound via the analog outs or headphone socket, regardless of whether I have the Control (plug-in) running or not.

To be honest, I'm not so finnicky about differences as subtle as that, anyway ;) Suffice to say, either way will sound like a Virus :)

I do not know how Marc recorded the demos.

Anyway, as to which you should buy - if you can afford the TI, wait for that, definitely.

thanks ben for such a quick reply.

just one silly question coming from a synth technical newbie.

the wavetable waveforms, are they hardware or software.

also i thought for a while that wavetabel were sampled waves like found in romplers,
but i dont think that now.
so how are the wavetable waveforms made. was it just programmers coming up with nice patterns or was it trying to recreate specific sounds.

would the wavetable waveforms be ROM LIKE ON romplers.

The wavetable waveforms are stored in ROM. However, judging by the what you can do with them, their implementation must be more complex than that of the standard rompler.

Each table is a collection of waves which sound interesting when they are swept. Some sound really good with LFO (cyclic) modulation, whilst others are better suited to modulation via an envelope (many sound just as good either way of course). They also represent a very large library of static waves, should you wish to use them like this.

OK Ben...so does this mean the existing 64 digital waves (as in previous virus') are imported into the new wavetable algorithm? Meaning, on previous virus' the 64 waves were kinda static....but now on the TI you can interpolate between them....?

Or does the TI still retain the 64 waves....but has a genuinely new wavetable section. If this is so....then this makes for an insane amount of oscilator waveforms lol :wink:

DS

No

Yes.

LOL holy shit Ben.....so many waveforms....

This is very appealing to me....

DS

Also, consider the fact that every point in between the waves is effectively a different wave as well..

Just been listening to the TI audio demo again. Am I to assume that all those sounds are going to be included as factory presets? There are some really f*$&ing nice wavetable sounds there. Alot of potential.....

DS

Cheers Ben :)

Will the, er, wavetables be user-importable, or editable graphically via the software? Or maybe for a future software operating system upgrade?

I don't know, but certainly not for version 1.0.

But hey - there'll be loads of tables to get started with, and Hypersaws to mess about with, so first things first, eh? ;)

Hi ben, :)

a small question about the new programmable arp: with the TI, will we still have the possibility of sending the virus arpegiator sequences via midi out (plugin or physical) for controlling other synths, VSTi`s?

thanks,
midi.

Sure.

wicked! thx. 8)


Best,
midi.

Hey ben, will you be able to assign any midi CCs to that arp', or is it just for velocity only?

Thnx!

ps. Can't wait to grab the manual for a good gander when it becomes available!

It works just like the Arp in the other Viruses, so velocity only.

There should be an "ASK BEN" thread don't you think?

timo, in many sequencers program (like cubase\nuendo for instance) it`s not a real problem transforming the input midi data to another. so incoming velocity data could easly be transformed to any cont` data you`d like...


Best,
midi.

yeah hi ben, i have this rash.... :wink:

cheers

blay

:)

It's Dr Ben from now on and he may start making appointments :wink:

hey ben,

apart from playing the VIRUS TI, do you actually have a TI at your place to play and program at the moment.

thats what it seems like with your knowledge of it.

has ACCESS given you one, to program patches for a while.

if thats the case can you tell ACCESS that in my part of the world there is a 'kick-ass'' synth programmer by the name of 'technomonster', who
will do an incredible job for them. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

i can give you more details when they make the correct decision here.

I dont think Ben's on Access's payroll....so it stands to reason that he gets given a brand new virus everytime one comes out...so that he can make patches and beta test etc. I would be really suprised if he isnt allowed to keep it....

What Id like to know is how been got the 'job' in the first place.

Ben...how did u get this opportunity you jammy *$&% LMAO :lol: :lol:

DS

hey how is it going Ben :)

how is the noisefloor on the TI comparing with the VC? I had the indigo II, the headphone and output jacks were very noisy (that's with noise osc at zero). Do you hear any noise with the TI at all?

I noticed this too
I assumed it was my analog eqs...or one of the old things in my studio but everytime it came back to the Virus (c) - which suprised me.

The noise floor is inaudible through my 'phones. The outputs are at least as quiet as the C.

Whilst the original Indigo had a noisy headphone out, I thought that was improved for the II? Anyway, the main outputs certainly shouldn't have been noisy - there is a relatively common situation which can cause noisy outs though, which is where Input Boost has been inadvertantly turned up..

When did you get the IndigoII? I had a few Virus KC's between June 2003 and Sept 2004.....and I noticed Access upgraded the headphone socket around Jan/feb 2004. This effectively made the headphone socket noiseless. Now I know people have commented on the headphone socket noise....but this issue became redundent after the upgrade was made.

I should think the TI is about as quiet as one can get.....

DS

Hey Ben, that's good news about less or no noise at the outputs :D

Hey DS, I bought the indigoII late 2003.

Those wavetables 8O

Ben can you comment on the TI's general progress? We still looking at months do you reckon. Id like you to break the industry secrets act and just spill the beans. Dont worry....you were under duress. LOL

DS 8)

Yes please Ben help me stay waiting please. I want to but as the days go by it is harder 6 months is a long time to be waiting in limbo.

So i'm assuming that the release of the manual means that a release date is coming soon, well at least that's what i'm hoping.

Hm, I just think they answered to the MP3?s and Manual-Thread. I?m sure they?re also reading this forum!
And the releas will still last and last and last and ....
:x

MarcTale

...but it has to be a step in the right direction.

of course, the manual can always be reviewed/changed upon release...

cheers

blay