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DIGITAL SCREAMS 20.04.2005 08:22 AM

LOL....'gimp' is a funny word

DS

Hollowcell 20.04.2005 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gopal

"They said it would be December '04 and I believe em"

8)

Hehehe. That was before the fresh paint went on the trucks though. :D

Timo 20.04.2005 11:49 AM

Maybe they're stuck in traffic? :)

BLAY, I SINCERELY HOPE I HAVEN'T SCARED YOU OFF, MATE! Come back!

blay 20.04.2005 12:21 PM

You wont get rid of me that easy Timo. :wink:

cheers

blay

Hollowcell 21.04.2005 06:44 AM

Some new news!!!

From what my distributor tells me...

The trucks are now having some sort of GPS software conflict too, and may have to go back in for more beta testing. 8O

Will the TI ever ship?
Will the TI part of the TI, really TI?
Will the paint on the trucks ever dry?

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of....

Fuck the customer!

And no you can't use this catch phrase Access. I know DS sold out for a T-shirt and all, but it'll take more with me. :D

All in good fun by the way guys. :wink:

blay 21.04.2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
Some new news!!!

From what my distributor tells me...

The trucks are now having some sort of GPS software conflict too, and may have to go back in for more beta testing. 8O

Will the TI ever ship?
Will the TI part of the TI, really TI?
Will the paint on the trucks ever dry?

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of....

Fuck the customer!

And no you can't use this catch phrase Access. I know DS sold out for a T-shirt and all, but it'll take more with me. :D

All in good fun by the way guys. :wink:

Post of the year HC :lol:

I dont often laugh out loud reading forums, but this cracked me :wink:

grs 21.04.2005 01:07 PM

They could just give us a memory wipe like it never happened. Hang on what am I doing at this forum? hmm,. :roll: I was doing a search for a computer virus.

Timo 21.04.2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of....

Fuck the customer!

buaahahahha



[squeaky voice] "please sir, i wants a hypersaw!" > < "i'll give you hypersore, gimme your lunch money you customer biyatch!"

sorry, shouldn't laugh

Timo 21.04.2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grs
They could just give us a memory wipe like it never happened. Hang on what am I doing at this forum? hmm,. :roll: I was doing a search for a computer virus.


DIGITAL SCREAMS 21.04.2005 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowcell
I know DS sold out for a T-shirt and all, but it'll take more with me. :D

Oh damn.....the cats out of the bag

DS

i3 22.04.2005 12:20 AM

man you would have to think that access would get tired of all the calls and emails about bad marketing and unhappy customers. So far my experience with access music has been shite. First virus I bought had faulty hardware and now this for the 2nd attempt to buy. The thing that sux most is that I already bought the TI and I payed for it in december. Access admit it! you guys got in over your heads with this one...

blay 22.04.2005 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i3
Access admit it! you guys got in over your heads with this one...

thats fairly obvious - lets just hope it ships within the next month.

I hope access rewards its faithful preorder customers with a deserved reward for their patience :wink:

cheers

blay

MarcTale 22.04.2005 06:26 PM

Yep!
Hello Access - USB2 would be nice. With enough Audio-Outs... :wink:

Regards

MarcTale

Nigel Harkness 22.04.2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
Quote:

Originally Posted by i3
Access admit it! you guys got in over your heads with this one...

thats fairly obvious - lets just hope it ships within the next month.

I hope access rewards its faithful preorder customers with a deserved reward for their patience :wink:

cheers

blay

A drop in price would be nice even though it won't happen.

MADSTATION 22.04.2005 06:45 PM

MarcTale...The hardware was finalized a while ago so there is no way that this will happen for the first version of the TI!

I agree with you tho, this would have rocked.

MarcTale 22.04.2005 07:27 PM

Yeah I know!
Please just let me dream on......

Dreaming

MarcTale

Hollowcell 23.04.2005 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blay
I hope access rewards its faithful preorder customers with a deserved reward for their patience :wink:

How does a free T-shirt sound? On the T-shirt it could read "I waited for the TI for 6 months, but still I will advertise the company for free".

:D

"6 months" is subject to change of course. Do I hear 8, no 9, how about 10?!

DIGITAL SCREAMS 23.04.2005 12:05 PM

Lets just hope what happened to the Kurzveil VA1 doesnt turn into a TI issue.....

People are still waiting for the VA 1 to be released....and if memory serves me correctly....that was 'announced' back in January 2004.

DS

blay 23.04.2005 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
People are still waiting for the VA 1 to be released....and if memory serves me correctly....that was 'announced' back in January 2004.

DS

who knows mate.
Im going to upgrade from a powerbook to a new pc desktop over the next couple of weeks - should keep my GAS at bay for at least a couple of months till the TI arrives :wink:

cheers

blay

Doc Jones 23.04.2005 03:53 PM

did access ever make an official statement regarding upgrading from usb1 to usb2? Meaning, at some point down the road if they do implement usb2, will the original ti owners be able to upgrade (ie buy some sort of optional card) so that we can now utilize the bandwidth of the usb2 spec?

blay 23.04.2005 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Jones
will the original ti owners be able to upgrade (ie buy some sort of optional card) so that we can now utilize the bandwidth of the usb2 spec?

doubt it.

how else will they be able to drum up sales for the TI2? :roll:

cheers

blay

DIGITAL SCREAMS 23.04.2005 05:27 PM

Yes, sadly I think as the TI OS grows....the limitation of USB1 will become all the more apparent. Afterall the TI is an exceptionally powerful synth beast......

Having said that, the Total Integration aspect wont be used by me. Im happy to use analog outputs the good 'ol fashioned way. The insane polyphony, hypersaw, wavetables and delay+reverb are what I'll be using most. An additional filter type would also be very nice. How about a TB303, Jupiter, Prophet and Oberheim filter. Now that really would cover some sonic ground :wink:

DS

DIGITAL SCREAMS 23.04.2005 05:30 PM

Well put it this way. If it became apparent that USB1 was not fast enough for future features....then one would legitimately have to ask why it was implemented in the first place. Especially considering that USB2 nowadays isnt exactly going to break the bank...

DS

ben crosland 23.04.2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Yes, sadly I think as the TI OS grows....the limitation of USB1 will become all the more apparent.
DS

I don't see how this would have any impact on the effectiveness of USB? The end result will still be MIDI+Audio, no matter what features may be added..

DIGITAL SCREAMS 23.04.2005 08:44 PM

Ben, am I right or wrong in thinking the TI can stream 16 channels of audio over USB? Ive heard people talking about it doing 3 stereo pairs or 6 mono..... So whats this...either 3 or 6 part multitimbral over USB? Why not the full 16?

The truth is...the USB thingy wont be of much use to me initially as i tend to use analog outs.

I know there was some discussion on this sometime ago....but im a techno newbie and all these facts and figures dont mean a whole lot to me :lol:

DS

ten 23.04.2005 09:46 PM

It was two stereo to begin with but then marc bumped this up to three depending on samplerate/bitrate I think. Even though it would of been nice to have all 16 over usb2 or firewire. Three is a bit wanky considering you have a 16 multimb synth.

ten

Royalston 24.04.2005 01:12 AM

I dont want to dissapoint anyone (anymore than they already are)...and I know you guys dont put much faith in Distributors, but I recieved this info in an email from the 'president' of Bananas.com:
Quote:
"By the way, we have been told June at the earliest for the Virus - - apparently their first operating system did not meet expectations, and they are in a re-write. the hardware, it seems, is ready to rock."

I ordered and paid for my T.I in December
:(

Royalston

DIGITAL SCREAMS 24.04.2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ten
It was two stereo to begin with but then marc bumped this up to three depending on samplerate/bitrate I think. Even though it would of been nice to have all 16 over usb2 or firewire. Three is a bit wanky considering you have a 16 multimb synth.

ten

You know......Access is no synth light weight in the industry....im very suprised that they were unable to get a good deal on USB 2 (at the very least)....considering they sell synths in relatively large numbers.

This does add a little bit to my concerns... Undoubtedly the TI-2 will have an upgraded spec. I really do hope that the USB1 is not some kinda built in design limitation just so they can market the TI-2 as being more powerful. Because.....as much as I like Access and their synths....I would just find it so unacceptable that I'd probably never buy again. Put it this way....its only a matter of time before the model is superceeded.....and this seems to be part of the company's vision. Im already beginning to think about waiting for the enevitable TI-2 purely because I can already see a few niggling things which will later addressed.

Does anyone share this concern? Dont get me wrong, I still believe the TI is the dogs bollox......but the longer one waits...the more one can pick it to pieces.

DS

markorbit 24.04.2005 10:49 AM

OS rewrite
 
If true, that would explain quite a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royalston
I dont want to dissapoint anyone (anymore than they already are)...and I know you guys dont put much faith in Distributors, but I recieved this info in an email from the 'president' of Bananas.com:
Quote:
"By the way, we have been told June at the earliest for the Virus - - apparently their first operating system did not meet expectations, and they are in a re-write. the hardware, it seems, is ready to rock."

I ordered and paid for my T.I in December
:(

Royalston


DIGITAL SCREAMS 24.04.2005 11:01 AM

I dont know about you guys....but with the KC I always felt it was not quite the synth i wanted it to be. Namely....needed a bit more poly and wanted delay *and* reverb......

ok so I sold it for much needed money at uni.....

Now im waiting for the TI to materialize (and im sure it will in time). The TI does represent a workstation synth....theres no doubt about that. However, despite all the great new features of the TI.....it yet again 'just falls short' of what I'd consider to be the perfect synth. Wouldnt it be nice if Access could just get it right with the TI and not bring out some kinda MKii version in 2-3 years time...

You guessed it guys.....DS is pissed off.....im just having my rant. Ive got a nice cup of shut the fuck up brewing......so I'll leave it like that.

*Still think the TI is da dogs bollox though. And the USB1 thingy doesnt bother me at all as I dont have any plans to use it. Im just worried Access will bring out the MKii version with the upgraded spec once the current line of TI's are sold. Hence.....I dont particulalrly want to be the first group of people to get the TI.

DS

Timo 24.04.2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
Quote:

Originally Posted by ten
It was two stereo to begin with but then marc bumped this up to three depending on samplerate/bitrate I think. Even though it would of been nice to have all 16 over usb2 or firewire. Three is a bit wanky considering you have a 16 multimb synth.

ten

You know......Access is no synth light weight in the industry....im very suprised that they were unable to get a good deal on USB 2 (at the very least)....considering they sell synths in relatively large numbers.

This does add a little bit to my concerns... Undoubtedly the TI-2 will have an upgraded spec. I really do hope that the USB1 is not some kinda built in design limitation just so they can market the TI-2 as being more powerful. Because.....as much as I like Access and their synths....I would just find it so unacceptable that I'd probably never buy again.

I concur. Earlier I said that, if the TI had Firewire or USB2, it would have ensured it to become a future classic.

....Otherwise if the TI-2 has the additional bandwidth, second hand prices of the original TI may not be good for the seller (seeing as, in two years time, making music solely with computers will be even more prevalent than it is now, and hardware keyboards will perhaps have a more tough time being sold second hand - especially with more inferior integration than they could easily have otherwise have had. This could have been Access' last chance to make a storming hardware synthesiser, who knows?).

For example: How many (even brand new) standalone USB v1 soundcards sell well today? Which follows that, how many USB v1 soundcards will sell well in two years time?.....

The TI is a great synth, otherwise. Kicks ass. The only other shortfall, in my mind, which I would've loved it to have had is a ribbon or XY-pad controller for different modulation effects other than just linear knob twisting.

You know, I really honestly can't believe that Access haven't taken the opportunity to improve in this aspect with each incarnation of the Virus, right from the Virus A. It's an expressive synth, but there aren't many expressive "real-time" controls to take advantage over it, and it just hasn't been improved in this area. At all.

...Imagine controlling the wavetables with a ribbon controller by stabbing at it in different places with your finger (as opposed to smooth knob-transitions), or modulating this to another parameter like filter cut-off for gated/stuttered effects. If it had pressure sensitivity you could modulate filter cut-off in the X plane (left to right), and resonance in the Z (pressure) plane. Heaps of potential expression, all with using one finger.

DIGITAL SCREAMS 24.04.2005 06:54 PM

:oops:

Nigel Harkness 25.04.2005 02:14 PM

I know this has been done a million times over but here is a message I just recieved from sweetwater.com:

I got this message from my purchasing agent last week and figured you
would want to see it:

Virus TI ETA has been pushed out based on the below message:

04/20/05 From Geoff Farr @ GSF Agency "I met w/Access in Frankfurt
during the trade show. Since they have missed a couple of ship dates they
were reluctant to give an ETA, but out of my meeting w/them it is my
opinion that the TI's hopefully will ship in 4 to 6 weeks." jag


I tell you what if I come back from Hawaii, May 26th, and that puppy is not here I am more than likely going to cancel and get a bunch of shit off of e-bay.

Timo 25.04.2005 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS
:oops:

??

(PS > Of course, if it has customisable/importable wavetables I'd forego the shortcomings, hehe. ;) ;) )

blay 26.04.2005 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Harkness
I tell you what if I come back from Hawaii, May 26th, and that puppy is not here I am more than likely going to cancel and get a bunch of shit off of e-bay.

may as well cancel now and start your buying spree nigel :wink: :roll:

access are reluctant to give promises on shipping dates that they know they will only break....

if this info in regard to a possible total OS rewrite has any validity then I think there is a chance we will be waiting for at least another 3 months :(

cheers

blay

Nigel Harkness 26.04.2005 12:08 PM

They are totally rewriting the whole OS?

bj2001 26.04.2005 01:39 PM

http://www.thomann.de/iw_smb_suche.h...HBEGRIFF=virus

the wait is fuckin' too long, it's unbearable.
check musikthomann.
i guess we will get the gear earlier in europ? than in the US.

MarcTale 26.04.2005 03:40 PM

I called Thomann and they just forgot to change their information about the shipping date.
So everything?s back to "never"... :?

MarcTale

bj2001 26.04.2005 03:45 PM

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

blay 27.04.2005 04:30 AM

expect the worst and anything else you get is a bonus... :?

there is no way you will see access admitting to a full OS rewrite.

cheers

blay


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